Multi Lingual Forums

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Español por favor

Spanish please!

[Leinad]

Bonjour à tous !

It will be fun to Add French too

It is very hard for me to translate all those commands in French

A lot of people here in Quebec (Canada) Are playing UO !

So that's it

[ZaSz-RH]

Originally Posted by Leinad

Bonjour à tous !

It will be fun to Add French too

It is very hard for me to translate all those commands in French

A lot of people here in Quebec (Canada) Are playing UO !

So that's it

Ce n'est pas RunUO qu'ils vont traduire, c'est simplement un forum où on va pouvoir dans notre langue. Et où on aura pas à traduire ce qu'on écrit :P
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It wont be a translation of RunUO, they will create additional forums in our language. And we wont have to translate what we say :P

[BiO_ZeRg]

Originally Posted by Nora

Im argentina, and i use to read spanish. I no need Castellano for to read.. I just talk like this! :P

But i am from mexico and sometimes i dont understand some argentian words and i dont want mexican spanish castellano can be good for all the people speaks spanish. spain, mexico, argentina, venezuela, cuba, guatemala, el salvador, bolivia all south american no all understand argentina spanish but all understand castellano is like universal spanish becuse all we need to learn in the school

[Andrew_Offlined]

Originally Posted by Swerve_jnr

i still say irish!!!!

Tá fáilte romhat!!

Scríobh chugam as Béarla, más é do thoil é... Tuigim Gaeilge shimplí.

[Alari]

Why not write the board to support a base psuedo-language and auto-translate each post from that into the reader's preferred language? =) It would be hard, but really cool. ^.^

[TMSTKSBK]

that would be cool...

[WarAngel]

Originally Posted by Alari

Why not write the board to support a base psuedo-language and auto-translate each post from that into the reader's preferred language? =) It would be hard, but really cool. ^.^

Considering normal translation sites hardly ever print out readable translations (no grammar checking, etc.), I don't think it's feasible. :d

[DontdroptheSOAD]

Well we could always hire a room full of multi lingual midgets to translate every post into all languages.

[Rabban]

Why on earth are people still posting in this thread ? You're forcing me to look in the announcements section practically every day to see if there were other new posts other than this...

[Shadow1980]

I work for a large multilingual web marketing company and there are both advabtages as well as disadvantages with offering multilingual support.

The obvious advantage is that people who speak no english whatsoever can receive support, though this support will be limited.
This might attract some more users.

The disadvantages are a bit larger:
1. You will *need* one or more moderators for each and every language.
2. You will spread the community and decrease activity for the large bulk of users that DO speak English.
3. Dependant on how you arrange it, you will either have random languages throughout threads or have seperate forums for each language. The first is messy the second becomes annoying as you reduce the importance of current active forums.
4. You encourage people not to bother to learn English, which is a bad idea. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for anybody in the RunUO community to not learn English or to not want to learn English. The programming language it is written in is in English for crying out loud. In fact - any programmar should be capable of speaking English if he/she wants to be a competative factor in his/her market. (I am a programmer and I am not a native English speaker, so shush before you start to comment.)


Either way, despite being for multilungual support on shard themselve or in fact anywhere else on the internet where it is useful, I believe multilingual support here will do more damage then it will do good. Remember we are not providing support for players here, but for people who are interested in building/running a shard and creating scripts.

This is my advise, of course you are free to do (or don't) as you please.

[BiO_ZeRg]

we learn english now plz give to us a multi lingual forums plzzzzz we learn english we deserve it

[WarAngel]

Well as Shadow said, I think the advantages and disadvantages should be considered. I know it would be nice for non-English users to have their own forum, but is it really worth it?

[Alari]

Originally Posted by WarAngel

Considering normal translation sites hardly ever print out readable translations (no grammar checking, etc.), I don't think it's feasible. :d

I didn't mean something like Google translate (which I have used, but yes it requires re-writing what it spits out into real English)

I meant something more along the lines of the FFXI auto-translate. It lets you choose words or phrases out of a list, and then locally 'translates' those. More like the cliloc functions of the UO client, that a player can access. =)

[WarAngel]

Originally Posted by Alari

I didn't mean something like Google translate (which I have used, but yes it requires re-writing what it spits out into real English)

I meant something more along the lines of the FFXI auto-translate. It lets you choose words or phrases out of a list, and then locally 'translates' those. More like the cliloc functions of the UO client, that a player can access. =)

Oh, yeah. But to be honest, that'd be pretty stupid. Having been a big fan of the Microsoft online games suite thing (Backgammon, Checkers, etc.), the pre-defined response list is really lame.

[Shadow1980]

Originally Posted by Alari

I didn't mean something like Google translate (which I have used, but yes it requires re-writing what it spits out into real English)

I meant something more along the lines of the FFXI auto-translate. It lets you choose words or phrases out of a list, and then locally 'translates' those. More like the cliloc functions of the UO client, that a player can access. =)

Such a thing is not feasible on forums. Not without it being years of work and making some sense. The only good translation is manual translation.

Consider some of the posts currently made by people who are not very proficient in English and multiply the hard time you have to understand their explanations by a factor of ten. You will then be close to the level of understanding from posts made by any auto-translator, predefined or otherwise.

[Greystar]

Heh one thing I noticed is since a majority of the users here speak english in one form or another and many of the users from other countries are taught english as either a Primary or high secondary language in school, there should really be no need. If someone really needs a translation run a thread through babblefish or something. Google translation can be good some of the time but in most translators grammer isnt properly translated and since most people tend to use slang or abbreviations those don't get translated, so leave it as it is and the non-english speakers will just have to be a bit more patient with those of us who only speak english and are trying to figure out what the heck the stuff you typed is supposed to mean. I know there are people like Daat99 who speak atleast One other language, but I don't know how many others who are decent coders who are willing to translate. I think maybe also ArteGordon does occasionally as well... but anywayz. Just thought I'd make a comment.

[Alari]

I didn't think it would be feasable, just cool. ^.^

And yeah, I've used Google translate successfully on more than one script's documentation. It horribly mangles the script itself, usually beyond repair, but selective translation of the object names and such yields a useable translation. It takes some effort to turn what the auto-translators spit out into readable language, though it definitely takes less time than manually translating everything. =)

As far as general forum posts, multiple forums for different languages are probably the best solution to giving everyone a way to get support or be involved in a community without the inherent problems and ridicule that come when dealing with people who would rather say "speak my language" than try and understand what you wrote. The problem I feel arises from having multiple forums for different languages is that it splits the community. It becomes a(nother) dividing point for people who were originally brought together by one ideal - having their own UO server, talking with others who run servers, sharing code (whether giving or receiving), etc. Unfortunately I don't see any realistic way around that.

[hurrnet]

italian?????

[Asmir3]

i think i be the first to say Bosanski!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have friends that want to play but they dont know any english and they play on different time zone so they cant get help lol unless im there which is hard