Multi Lingual Forums

[Ryan]

What language's should we add for forums?

So far I've been asked to add:

Turkish
German
French

Any others?

Thanks,
Ryan

[Deaths Advocate]

ive noticed alot of spanish speaking ppl out there

[Ankhesentapemkah]

1337-sp34k seems to be in popular demand here too unfortunately.

or teh omfgrofl we ned too yes we do lolololol!111!



Seriously, I don't think we should encourage non-English on these boards. I can help you with Dutch if you want though.

[Deaths Advocate]

well i do think it will be a good idea just cause it will git other cultures invovled with runuo

[Manu]

Originally Posted by Ankhesentapemkah

Seriously, I don't think we should encourage non-English on these boards.

And you think so why... ?

What is wrong with providing people with menues, options and buttons in their native language? Nobody forces you to answer, if someone posts in their native language and not in english.

[Deaths Advocate]

exactly should put yourself in others shoes what if runuo was in german?

what if you couldnt understand what ppl where saying but really would like to?

this way it helps them better understand the runuo project.

[Rabban]

I'm not personally requesting the following languages, but they are common from what I can tell (meaning I've heard of shards being hosted in these languages).

Russian,
Spanish (already was said),
Portugese

[Kenko]

Spanish!!! Español! :P A lot of ppl speak Spanish in the forum!

[Ankhesentapemkah]

Originally Posted by Manu

And you think so why... ?

What is wrong with providing people with menues, options and buttons in their native language? Nobody forces you to answer, if someone posts in their native language and not in english.

Just what exactly is the use of having all those options in multiple languages? It'll only encourage the people NOT to learn English. And if people post in their native language and didn't even bother to run it though one of the many free online translators that litter the web I'd say those posts should be deleted.

Bah on my forum, even English posts which deliberately lack caps and punctuation get deleted, and people that persist posting like that get banned. The other extreme, I know. But hey, English isn't my first language either. How did I learn it? From all those computer games back in the 80's and early 90's. Back in the time we didn't have the luxury of multiple languages. Nowadays the spoiled kids over here don't want games when the manual and game aren't in Dutch. BAH! I started typing English before I even learned to write Dutch at school.

[Johabius]

Originally Posted by Ankhesentapemkah

Just what exactly is the use of having all those options in multiple languages? It'll only encourage the people NOT to learn English.

And why exactly should people HAVE to learn english in the first place? I think this is a great idea to offer up other languages in order to reflect the multiple cultures that use runuo and its related projects

[Viky]

Czech forum forever!

[jack trades]

What about Japanese? That is the second largest market for UO!

[hollysong]

Ryan that is great thing, in Turkey a lot of people working about RUNUO scripts. but peoples right there was a problem about multi lingua = Commination. But have great benefit = more people connect runuo and send more idea.


Ryan if you need support for turkish language me and a lot of people help you for translation.

[Deaths Advocate]

its a good idea i agree why should ppl have to go years and try to learn a language just to read a forum and understand it.

[Smjert]

italian obviously

[Crowley62]

These are the languages i have seen on my server. Spanish, Porteguese, Chinese, and Turkish. We have alot of turkish people and we are small i would imagine alot of servers have turks. Turkish is my main choice because some do not speak english well and it is hard to explain things to them.

[TMSTKSBK]

yeah...if anyone posts in non-english...it better be:
A. French
or
B. Japanese.

Otherwise I can't help. But it'd be good to have spanish & german.

[Zero_X]

German
French
Spanish
Portugese
Dutch
Russian
Chinese Traditional/Modern whatever...
Japanese
Korean
Turkish

[KingSmidgens]

Multi-lingual RunUO, in my opinion, would probably cause more trouble than it solves.. how, you might ask.. well, like Anhkesentapemkah said, it would start to encourage people to use their native tongue instead of English on the forums, and i'm not being racist, but the problem that this would cause is that people who don't speak english and don't even try to speak english will be trying to install and run scripts, and not knowing english will be posting non-stop asking for support. Even if you make a German, Japanese, Russian, etc. release of the RunUO system that has the base scripts in their language, they wouldn't be able to install any of the scripts on the forums and will be asking the script makers to translate it into their language, when the writers themselves may be limited lingually.

i'm not racist or anything, and I may not understand what you're trying to do fully, but from what I have gathered this is one of the problems adding new languages to the forums would create, and while i'm not against it, i'm just saying it would probably get pretty annoying

[TheOutkastDev]

Why encourage users to learn english? Streamlining support.

By learning english, the user can post his/her problems and have a vastly greater number of users that are capable of support. A user who posts in german is limited to those who speak german for support.

Is it an inconvience? Probably. But that minor inconvenience will save them a substantial amount of frustration when they have a larger number of users to draw support from.

[Ankhesentapemkah]

Originally Posted by Johabius

And why exactly should people HAVE to learn english in the first place? I think this is a great idea to offer up other languages in order to reflect the multiple cultures that use runuo and its related projects

Oh dan vind je het vast niet erg dat ik op deze manier op je bericht reageer zeker? Het is ook zo handig wanneer iedereen in z'n eigen taal berichten gaat plaatsen. En dan gaat eisen dat er in z'n eigen taal antwoord gegeven wordt. Toegankelijk voor iedereen, begrijpelijk voor niemand.

(Oh then you probably wouldn't mind that I reply to your post in this fashion eh? Is it not terribly convenient when people start posting in their own language? And then start demanding that people reply in their own language. Accessable for everyone, understandable for no-one.)

Look, I do not care if the board is in Russian, Chinese, or English. I'll learn a new language if I have to. I do care when this board is Russian, Chinese AND English at the same time. Like TheOutkastDev said, we need ONE language
so everyone can communicate with everyone else. And frankly, if you're smart enough to mess around with C#, then you're smart enough to learn English too.

[Exer]

Omg.. beleive me, its not worth it to learn english "just to get more support". There are alot more reasons to, but if you don't have time to learn a new language, you should at least be able to get support from your native language.

Sure you could learn the base, but if you want to go deeper into your support, you needa learn more than a few lines.

[TMSTKSBK]

I would say that the vast majority of users on here speak and understand at least SOME English. Since we don't have that many Chinese users, I would say English is the best bet.

The population of most non-english-language-speaking forumizens is too small to properly provide support for people speaking any other language. (The notable exceptions being Spanish, German, and Turkish) Based on this, I think that it would probably be better to keep the forums in a mostly single-language format.

just my $.015

[Johabius]

Originally Posted by Ankhesentapemkah

Oh dan vind je het vast niet erg dat ik op deze manier op je bericht reageer zeker? Het is ook zo handig wanneer iedereen in z'n eigen taal berichten gaat plaatsen. En dan gaat eisen dat er in z'n eigen taal antwoord gegeven wordt. Toegankelijk voor iedereen, begrijpelijk voor niemand.

I see your point...but still expecting everyone to learn english just because it's more convenient is still a little arrogant in my opinion. But it's cool to have a difference of opinion on something like this. That way all sides of an issue get discussed

And this may not be the best dutch in the world, but I tried:

Ik zie uw punt... maar is nog verwachten van iedereen leert het Engels enkel omdat het geschikter is nog een weinig arrogant naar mijn mening. Maar het is koel om een verschil van advies te hebben over iets als dit. Die manier alle kanten van een kwestie wordt besproken.

Anyway...I can see the point of both sides of the issue, and we'll just have to leave it up to the powers that be to make the final decision

[Packer898]

My 2 cents is this...

If you want to add it then great. I really dont see where there would be a problem. If someone posts in Czech I can tell you for sure that im not going to translate it just to attempt to help. So for me this will remain the same. Just maybe with a few more posts.