Subscription changes... - RunUO

**Ryan** · 12-01-2005, 10:24 AM

Subscription changes...

I am very sure this will be quite controversial but alas, that's the way it goes.

Today is the last day our "Subscription" system will be in use. We are in the process of coming up with a whole new "schema" for what "Subscriptions" will be going forward.

As you can see there is no way to order a subscription but our previous Subscribers still have access to their forum. When RunUO 2.0 is released Subscribers WILL GET the first download of it. From this point going forward everyone will have access to the use of Forum Signatures/Avatars.

I feel this decision will be controversial to our 170 subscribers, but overall it promotes the health of the RunUO community. There's no reason for people to be 'left out'.

As for Advertising... it is still NOT permitted. Please refrain from advertising in our forum.

Thanks,
Ryan

Ankhesentapemkah · 12-01-2005, 12:39 PM

I dont think anyone would mind, people subscribe to support RunUO (at least that was my reason when I still was a subscriber), not because they get extra 'features'.

If people wonder, I'm currently not subscribed because PayPal screwed up my bank account transfer so I can't get money to my PayPal. And I don't have a stupid creditcard. Why need a creditcard when you've got a bank account eh...

Phantom · 12-01-2005, 12:53 PM

I don't know about anyone else but, the reason I became a subscriber was to help RunUO, not to request/advertise/ect so it doesn't bother me one bit.

If I can make a request, I do think having a system where other supporters can share/support each other is a good idea, but I don't think anyone should be allowed to advertise. The best solution would be a seperate website, ran by RunUO, that would allowed these type of requests.

But like I said, since I don't run a shard and only program in C#, being a subscriber was just because I wanted to support RunUO.

Shard Admin Adam · 12-01-2005, 01:03 PM

I am a lifetime subscriber to the RUNUO Forums and I do not mind one bit if you need to revise the memberships or come up with a new system.

I always thought that the RUNUO Forums should implement a monthly or a quarterly fee rather than a lifetime membership. I can't even imagine the hosting bills that you must face and I seriously doubt that the lifetime memberships will support you financially in the long run. I would not mind contributing regularly to your overhead via some type of continued payment structure.

Great job on the new look to the website. It's a bit brighter looking...nice change. Thanks for the effort guys and girls.

SAA

Phantom · 12-01-2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shard Admin Adam

I am a lifetime subscriber to the RUNUO Forums and I do not mind one bit if you need to revise the memberships or come up with a new system.

I always thought that the RUNUO Forums should implement a monthly or a quarterly fee rather than a lifetime membership. I can't even imagine the hosting bills that you must face and I seriously doubt that the lifetime memberships will support you financially in the long run. I would not mind contributing regularly to your overhead via some type of continued payment structure.

Great job on the new look to the website. It's a bit brighter looking...nice change. Thanks for the effort guys and girls.

SAA

Hosting bills that I know about are in the three digit range :-)

Pyro-Tech · 12-01-2005, 01:41 PM

i was a subscriber, but i let it lapse when i left the UO Emulation thing for a few months. *shrug*

but it was nice to get the perks, and i wanted to show at least a little bit of grattitude. although it was small

EDIT: do i need to remove the shard advertise from signiature then?

Deaths Advocate · 12-01-2005, 02:45 PM

i was wondering the same thing in the sense as do you conqueror have something aginst the project and there donations?

all ive seen you ask is when when when and about donations it will be RELEASED IN DUE TIME so and they do not say you MUST donate if they ask for donations (which i aint seen in my time here being that donations are of free will and not a must or it would be called paying not donating) it would be for a very good reason

Conqueror[DarkAG] · 12-01-2005, 02:51 PM

I just wonder, when we will get ML support, even if its not done, just some halfs. It will be soo good.

Thanks Phantom for all your anwsers.

Phantom · 12-01-2005, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conqueror[DarkAG]

I just wonder, when we will get ML support, even if its not done, just some halfs. It will be soo good.

Thanks Phantom for all your anwsers.

If its not in this release, it will be in a future release, clearly you can add the support yourself if thats the case.

Unless I am told by Ryan or Asayre that, Asayre did infact complete the ML support, I am not going to say anything but what I have heard.

Conqueror[DarkAG] · 12-01-2005, 03:02 PM

We will wait and see. Thanks for all your help.

**Serp** · 12-01-2005, 03:17 PM

I became a subscriber so that I could show everybody my awesome avatar.

Alis · 12-01-2005, 03:26 PM

How can i send money to donate or to be a subscriber your gona say paypal but paypal dont work around here what else can i do =) a while ago i posted something like this but no answer feedback givven =()

TMSTKSBK · 12-01-2005, 03:36 PM

Alis...you can do sig and avatar now w/out needing to be a subscriber. In fact, there are no subs anymore.

And if you want to just give money...I dunno.

**Ryan** · 12-01-2005, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alis

How can i send money to donate or to be a subscriber your gona say paypal but paypal dont work around here what else can i do =) a while ago i posted something like this but no answer feedback givven =()

We are going to add a 'donation' system that will not require paypal soon enough.

Thanks,
Ryan

sicron · 12-01-2005, 03:42 PM

As another lifetime subscriber, I also have no objection to the changes. I paid a whopping $25 for mine during one of the specials that were run, and for how much enjoyment Ive gotten because of runuo over the course of its existence, its the best dammed 25 bucks Ive ever spent in my life.
I havent actually used the server in ages, as I prefer more to play (mostly bug Drull&co.) than to run a shard of my own. I can barely remember the last time Ive even posted, but I still like to check out whats going on from time to time. There also has never really been much in the subscriber section that couldnt be had (with at least a little effort) otherwise, so for anyone to really be angry over this move is just ridiculous. Like many others I considered my subscription to be more of a donation than anything, and I strongly encourage anyone that has never donated or subscribed to at least donate once and show Ryan&co how much we appreciate how much they have done for us already.
Ok Im starting to ramble now so Ill just end with that... No let me just add another big THANK YOU! to runuo... yeah thats a better ending.

milt · 12-01-2005, 05:40 PM

Like most of the other subscribers, I have no objections. I have been a subscriber for awhile, and the main reason for my subscription was to support RunUO, not for an avatar, signature, or 'title'.

I think that donating that money was a good choice that I made, and I am sure that I will never regret it. In fact, I still plan to donate in the future. This community kicks ass and it feels like a lot of you are 'e-family'... lol, if you know what I mean.

Anyways, that's just my thoughts.

DontdroptheSOAD · 12-01-2005, 06:03 PM

Fine with me.

I just subscribed for the forums and to help.

sidsid · 12-01-2005, 09:48 PM

No, you jerks!!! I only subscribed to have a custom title!
I want my $30 and my original $3 back along with millions in emotional damages.
Wyatt would never do this!

Quote:

humor.

autumntwilight · 12-01-2005, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidsid

No, you jerks!!! I only subscribed to have a custom title!
I want my $30 and my original $3 back along with millions in emotional damages.
Wyatt would never do this!

ROFLMFAO!!

autumntwilight · 12-01-2005, 09:57 PM

Does this mean I can still subscribe today? I can't find the place to do it and searches aren't working for me..... Dunno if it's the upgrade to forums or what.... I'd like to renew my subscription for life....

silverwolfe · 12-01-2005, 10:52 PM

As a life time subscriber I must say that I will be more than willing to subscribe once more. It's not about the graphics or the signature lines. It is about feeling that even if it is only a small bit I have contributed towards the upkeep of a product I enjoy so much. I have spent a lot more money on things I have far less enjoyment out of.

I think that for the most part the "Subscribers" gave out of desire to help insure the longevity of the project and most will be willing to continue to give when possible.

TMSTKSBK · 12-02-2005, 01:32 AM

Soooo...on a totally different note...mebbe y'all should implement something where sigs can't be more than "x" lines long or something. Otherwise we're going to have a lot more sig than post around here O_o...

Phantom · 12-02-2005, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMSTKSBK

Soooo...on a totally different note...mebbe y'all should implement something where sigs can't be more than "x" lines long or something. Otherwise we're going to have a lot more sig than post around here O_o...

This already exists...

TMSTKSBK · 12-02-2005, 01:42 AM

ok well nm then...

Viago · 12-02-2005, 01:54 AM

i wish when i had the money i subscribed, but the features arnt that important. im not one of the ones who complains about silly things like sigs and all that. though some of the peivlidges. Like getting new releases first can be a plus! though some of the subscribers ar the more experianced members

ryan is right about makign the community more open minded, atleast with some lifted restrictions.

and im happy to have my pic on my porfile. yes...thats me. aint i cute?

12-01-2005, 10:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ryan RunUO Project Manager Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Harrison, OH Age: 30 Posts: 3,627	Subscription changes... Subscription changes... I am very sure this will be quite controversial but alas, that's the way it goes. Today is the last day our "Subscription" system will be in use. We are in the process of coming up with a whole new "schema" for what "Subscriptions" will be going forward. As you can see there is no way to order a subscription but our previous Subscribers still have access to their forum. When RunUO 2.0 is released Subscribers WILL GET the first download of it. From this point going forward everyone will have access to the use of Forum Signatures/Avatars. I feel this decision will be controversial to our 170 subscribers, but overall it promotes the health of the RunUO community. There's no reason for people to be 'left out'. As for Advertising... it is still NOT permitted. Please refrain from advertising in our forum. Thanks, Ryan __________________ Ryan McAdams RunUO Team - Project Manager

12-01-2005, 12:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ankhesentapemkah Forum Expert Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 344	I dont think anyone would mind, people subscribe to support RunUO (at least that was my reason when I still was a subscriber), not because they get extra 'features'. If people wonder, I'm currently not subscribed because PayPal screwed up my bank account transfer so I can't get money to my PayPal. And I don't have a stupid creditcard. Why need a creditcard when you've got a bank account eh... Last edited by Ankhesentapemkah; 12-01-2005 at 12:44 PM.

12-01-2005, 12:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Phantom Account Terminated Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 26 Posts: 3,846	I don't know about anyone else but, the reason I became a subscriber was to help RunUO, not to request/advertise/ect so it doesn't bother me one bit. If I can make a request, I do think having a system where other supporters can share/support each other is a good idea, but I don't think anyone should be allowed to advertise. The best solution would be a seperate website, ran by RunUO, that would allowed these type of requests. But like I said, since I don't run a shard and only program in C#, being a subscriber was just because I wanted to support RunUO. Last edited by Phantom; 12-01-2005 at 12:55 PM.

12-01-2005, 01:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pyro-Tech Forum Expert Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Carbondale, IL Age: 24 Posts: 1,805	i was a subscriber, but i let it lapse when i left the UO Emulation thing for a few months. shrug but it was nice to get the perks, and i wanted to show at least a little bit of grattitude. although it was small EDIT: do i need to remove the shard advertise from signiature then? __________________

12-01-2005, 03:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
TMSTKSBK Master of the Internet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NC/NC State Univ Age: 23 Posts: 16,424	Alis...you can do sig and avatar now w/out needing to be a subscriber. In fact, there are no subs anymore. And if you want to just give money...I dunno. __________________ Goodbye, folks.

12-01-2005, 01:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Shard Admin Adam Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 232	I am a lifetime subscriber to the RUNUO Forums and I do not mind one bit if you need to revise the memberships or come up with a new system. I always thought that the RUNUO Forums should implement a monthly or a quarterly fee rather than a lifetime membership. I can't even imagine the hosting bills that you must face and I seriously doubt that the lifetime memberships will support you financially in the long run. I would not mind contributing regularly to your overhead via some type of continued payment structure. Great job on the new look to the website. It's a bit brighter looking...nice change. Thanks for the effort guys and girls. SAA

12-01-2005, 02:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Deaths Advocate Forum Novice Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Castle, Indiana Age: 20 Posts: 215	i was wondering the same thing in the sense as do you conqueror have something aginst the project and there donations? all ive seen you ask is when when when and about donations it will be RELEASED IN DUE TIME so and they do not say you MUST donate if they ask for donations (which i aint seen in my time here being that donations are of free will and not a must or it would be called paying not donating) it would be for a very good reason

12-01-2005, 02:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
Conqueror[DarkAG] Account Terminated Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2	I just wonder, when we will get ML support, even if its not done, just some halfs. It will be soo good. Thanks Phantom for all your anwsers.

12-01-2005, 03:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Conqueror[DarkAG] Account Terminated Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2	We will wait and see. Thanks for all your help.

12-01-2005, 03:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Serp The noob formerly known as Jakob Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 316	I became a subscriber so that I could show everybody my awesome avatar.

12-01-2005, 03:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
Alis Forum Expert Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Probably where people call it heaven Posts: 1,452	How can i send money to donate or to be a subscriber your gona say paypal but paypal dont work around here what else can i do =) a while ago i posted something like this but no answer feedback givven =()

12-01-2005, 03:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
sicron Forum Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hudson valley ny Age: 38 Posts: 442	As another lifetime subscriber, I also have no objection to the changes. I paid a whopping $25 for mine during one of the specials that were run, and for how much enjoyment Ive gotten because of runuo over the course of its existence, its the best dammed 25 bucks Ive ever spent in my life. I havent actually used the server in ages, as I prefer more to play (mostly bug Drull&co.) than to run a shard of my own. I can barely remember the last time Ive even posted, but I still like to check out whats going on from time to time. There also has never really been much in the subscriber section that couldnt be had (with at least a little effort) otherwise, so for anyone to really be angry over this move is just ridiculous. Like many others I considered my subscription to be more of a donation than anything, and I strongly encourage anyone that has never donated or subscribed to at least donate once and show Ryan&co how much we appreciate how much they have done for us already. Ok Im starting to ramble now so Ill just end with that... No let me just add another big THANK YOU! to runuo... yeah thats a better ending. __________________ I dont hate all people...just stupid people...it just turns out most people are stupid! Trying hard to fight the urge to come back to UO!... Too late... I'm back!

12-01-2005, 05:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
milt Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, PA Age: 20 Posts: 1,606	Like most of the other subscribers, I have no objections. I have been a subscriber for awhile, and the main reason for my subscription was to support RunUO, not for an avatar, signature, or 'title'. I think that donating that money was a good choice that I made, and I am sure that I will never regret it. In fact, I still plan to donate in the future. This community kicks ass and it feels like a lot of you are 'e-family'... lol, if you know what I mean. Anyways, that's just my thoughts. __________________ --Milt, AKA Pokey

12-01-2005, 06:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
DontdroptheSOAD Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Glen Saint Mary, Florida Age: 19 Posts: 6,834	Fine with me. I just subscribed for the forums and to help. __________________ Robin Lovett April 21, 1948 - March 12, 2007

12-01-2005, 09:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
autumntwilight Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Houston, TX Age: 20 Posts: 316	Does this mean I can still subscribe today? I can't find the place to do it and searches aren't working for me..... Dunno if it's the upgrade to forums or what.... I'd like to renew my subscription for life....

12-02-2005, 01:32 AM	#22 (permalink)
TMSTKSBK Master of the Internet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NC/NC State Univ Age: 23 Posts: 16,424	Soooo...on a totally different note...mebbe y'all should implement something where sigs can't be more than "x" lines long or something. Otherwise we're going to have a lot more sig than post around here O_o... __________________ Goodbye, folks.

12-02-2005, 01:42 AM	#24 (permalink)
TMSTKSBK Master of the Internet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NC/NC State Univ Age: 23 Posts: 16,424	ok well nm then... __________________ Goodbye, folks.

12-02-2005, 01:54 AM	#25 (permalink)
Viago Forum Expert Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maine, USA Age: 25 Posts: 2,703	i wish when i had the money i subscribed, but the features arnt that important. im not one of the ones who complains about silly things like sigs and all that. though some of the peivlidges. Like getting new releases first can be a plus! though some of the subscribers ar the more experianced members ryan is right about makign the community more open minded, atleast with some lifted restrictions. and im happy to have my pic on my porfile. yes...thats me. aint i cute? __________________ Does Sam Adam's Pee taste like Beer?

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