Microsoft makes Visual Studio Express Free!!!

[Ryan]

Thats right... you may or may not already know but Microsoft has decided to make Visual Studio Express FREE.

The following links will help you get ahold of your copy:

News Release

Visual Studio Express Home

Visual C# Express Download

With all of the recent changes to RunUO and trying to foster a more community type of attitude Microsoft has even helped in a way by giving everyone a similar editor of excellent quality for free! Thanks Microsoft!

[CEO]

I simply love this editor. Believe it or not, I was a notepad person before this. I think they made this available sometime in Oct. last year, used it ever since. So much nicer, it saves alot of time with the silly "minor" errors too by identifying them before you compile. I couldn't do without it now! Highly recommended for anyone starting out with C#!

[AxEsLoCkEd]

Well i was a notepad person too but since ive started using ms visual studio 2002 i cant quit using ms studio well now i have Visual Studio 2003 Enterprise Architect and Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition Beta from on my laptop and Visual Studio 2005 Team Edition on my pc

[RavonTUS]

Greetings,

For a little scriptor like me that has been using Visual C# Express, what does Studio Express give me that might be useful?

-Ravon

[TMSTKSBK]

same thing, methinks O_o

w00tage for free stuffs...

[Arex]

Thanks Microsoft!

i only can say...LOL, what u say? JAVA/J2EE plattaform have a lot of professional IDE's free since alot of time ago...it is not a new thing, Microsoft only try get market, because his plattaform is being fucked for Java/J2EE platafform.

Furthermore, i neednt remember all things that Microsoft to do without use the standard patterns, i am a professional developer and it is frustating, all i can say is that Microsoft is a machine of make dollars, and nowadays there is a big fight between Microsoft (software monopoly) vs Sun-Linux (open source and community).

[TMSTKSBK]

Java must die.

[xX_Devious_Xx]

Is there a difference between these programs?? Just wondering which would be the better of the 3 to have

[PappaSmurf]

Yeah I've known they were free downloads for a while now...and even think I've posted the link on here once or twice or told people about it. I like the Visual Studio Express Edition for C# it really does make a lot of things easier. I'd recommend it to anyone.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Arex

i only can say...LOL, what u say? JAVA/J2EE plattaform have a lot of professional IDE's free since alot of time ago...it is not a new thing, Microsoft only try get market, because his plattaform is being fucked for Java/J2EE platafform.

Furthermore, i neednt remember all things that Microsoft to do without use the standard patterns, i am a professional developer and it is frustating, all i can say is that Microsoft is a machine of make dollars, and nowadays there is a big fight between Microsoft (software monopoly) vs Sun-Linux (open source and community).

Java sucks.

Sun Sucks.

Linux is a great server OS and until the innovate rather than duplicate they will never gain desktop share.

[DaZiL]

REQUIRES SERVICE PACK 2?? F**k off.. That service pack screws my computers up so hard.. Even for gaming. Give your lives to microsoft! You can trust them to do everything right, can't ya?

[TMSTKSBK]

d00d. SP2 is your friend...


Oh. Yah. Ryan's right -- I forgot to say -- SOLARIS IS THE WORK OF THE DEVIL.

[Atomic]

I've always defended MS while everyone cursed it. Now I have the proof I was right!

[Rift]

I've always had a thing against microsoft for long time but there recent activities in opensource and free tools and the extensive amount of help and support for the tools have lifted my respect for them a good bit. I have been using the C# express edition even before the first open beta of the express tools and the links and webcasts on using the tools and just pushing the general awareness of developing to the casual public is definatly a right direction for them.... i hope they can continue and keep the respect I have given them

[daat99]

Originally Posted by TMSTKSBK

d00d. SP2 is your friend...

Only if you're NOT a sys admin...

[TMSTKSBK]

Only if you know what you're doing...
(that was meant in a joshing way, daat)

[arul]

Originally Posted by Arex

i only can say...LOL, what u say? JAVA/J2EE plattaform have a lot of professional IDE's free since alot of time ago...it is not a new thing, Microsoft only try get market, because his plattaform is being fucked for Java/J2EE platafform.

Furthermore, i neednt remember all things that Microsoft to do without use the standard patterns, i am a professional developer and it is frustating, all i can say is that Microsoft is a machine of make dollars, and nowadays there is a big fight between Microsoft (software monopoly) vs Sun-Linux (open source and community).

Borland released professional IDE for Turbo Pascal many years before Java was even created, thus Sun sucks and only did want to get to the market ? You're riduculous.

I fully agree that there are good IDE's for Java, some of them are maybe better than VS2005 but it doesn't mean that we should use notepad for writing .net apps.
If Microsoft releases something for free, I will thank them, because quality of their products is always high and always fit my needs ( well ok, the intellisense in C++ sometimes seems to be UNintellisense ).
Besides, I have never had any major problem with any MS product.

But now, I must disagree that Java sucks and must die.
No programming language sucks ( ok, maybe some shit like Malbolge or another artifacially stupid language ), it's only up to coders what language they want to use, it's just an instrument.

Java isn't good for real time tasks ( Java word processors slower than typewriter are riduculous ), but it's maybe the most efficient way for long run tasks because of it's intelligent JIT compilers that performs various amazing stuff like profiling, dynamic recompiling, deep loop unrolls and so forth, which makes the code same efficient as the code written specifically for given processor and machine.

[Arex]

But now, I must disagree that Java sucks and must die.
No programming language sucks ( ok, maybe some shit like Malbolge or another artifacially stupid language ), it's only up to coders what language they want to use, it's just an instrument.

Java isn't good for real time tasks ( Java word processors slower than typewriter are riduculous ), but it's maybe the most efficient way for long run tasks because of it's intelligent JIT compilers that performs various amazing stuff like profiling, dynamic recompiling, deep loop unrolls and so forth, which makes the code same efficient as the code written specifically for given processor and machine.

it is true, i only am saying that Ryan announce that Microsoft is giving a IDE free when this policy already have been stablished by Sun. Microsoft only is trying not loss more and more dev each year, nowadays Java > .NET for almost all thigngs less Real-Time app. or games.

[Ktulu]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Java sucks.

NO

Originally Posted by Ryan

Sun Sucks.

NO

man, c# is almost the same as java. put some more funcinalities ant take out the portability to java and you get c#.
none is beter than the oter, they are just diferent.

Originally Posted by Ryan

Linux is a great server OS and until the innovate rather than duplicate they will never gain desktop share.

YES

linux is just for servers. if you wnt to do some task, play a game or anything that normal people do on computers, you beter get windows, linux sucks at anithing that is not being a server or being free

[TMSTKSBK]

Java.

Must.

Die.

[Arex]

Java.

Must.

Die.

only in your mind...u looks the brother of Bill Gates

[airwalk]

Awsome new! I did script with notepad several times and now I can live without fear.

[DaLaw66]

Originally Posted by TMSTKSBK

Java.

Must.

Die.

Agreed.
Java sucks

[RunUO2874]

On one hand, Java sucks. On the other, Microsoft is a corporate giant that has massive power in the computing industry and their software is being run on the majority of systems in the world and who, despite numerous flaws, has manages to produce some of the most use software in existance.. Who to hate, who to hate?

[Arex]

I only wait that Microsoft see this page and give u a demand for use his software without permission... or all people here have bought his IDE before it was free? You only like stupid, and Java sucks? it only can to be said for a stupid children or any ppl that dont work like professional developer doing enterprise and serious applications.