Forum updates - RunUO

**Ryan** · 07-24-2008, 12:44 PM

The RunUO Forum known as “Starbucks” has been removed. With the recent decline in the stock market Starbucks has been forced to close many stores and has revoked our store!

I jest… but at least it starts off light hearted eh?

To assist with the long term goal of making RunUO a development community centered around RunUO and Ultima Online I have decided to remove the Starbucks forum. It’s a sad day I know but it’s become necessary due to the continued way people have treated the site. I thought it would be nice to have a place for users to post useless information and have fun but it over time its degraded into a complete mess and frankly I just can’t take it anymore. If you enjoyed Starbucks then I suggest that you use SoRaged.com Unmoderated Discussion which is our unmoderated forum to continue your discussions or otherwise contribute to this community.

In the next few weeks we will be doing some more changes, posting some new rules and hopefully restoring the glory days for the forums and in general collaboration of RunUO (as well as fixing downloads!!!).

We appreciate your continued support of RunUO and look forward to bringing this community back into perspective.

Suil Ban · 07-24-2008, 12:52 PM

Oh my goodness :C

milt · 07-24-2008, 12:54 PM

Finally!

Amy- · 07-24-2008, 12:55 PM

Go Ryan!

**Ryan** · 07-24-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suil Ban

Oh my goodness :C

You might probably go to soraged.

Joeku · 07-24-2008, 01:09 PM

'bout time :P

Tumeski · 07-24-2008, 01:10 PM

Well i didn't see that one coming. Its true that Starbucks was a bit... well Starbucks. Its Runuo's choice and well go with it. Personally i think that users need to focus more on the Runuo itself than the starbucks.

Anyway it was fun and now lets get on with the serious business here as it should be...

b0b01 · 07-24-2008, 01:11 PM

Nice

What does this mean?

(as well as fixing downloads!!!)

Admin God · 07-24-2008, 01:40 PM

This was probably expected by Ryan and Jeff as well then...

So long to everyone. I'll be leaving as well (although I'm sure I'll still lurk in the shadows from time to time). I haven't played UO in years, free time to work on scripts is minimal at best, and I haven't really added anything other than ramblings of a madman to this community. Doesn't hurt that I have my own projects and goals that need my attention. It seems as though the numbers of this community have been dwindling as UO continues to age and only the die hard fans of it remain enthusiastic about projects like this. I realize that the mods are trying their hardest to revive the community (kudos to Jeff on the scripting contest idea), and that something needed to be done with Starbucks to restore focus to the goals of the community. As this was my outlet for socialization with other computer minded people, I regret seeing it completely removed as I think this will alienate some of the senior members of this community from rejoining the scripting side of things. Either way though, I hope to see a nice rebound to the project. Best wishes to all.

~Admin God

**Jeff** · 07-24-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0b01

Nice

What does this mean?

(as well as fixing downloads!!!)

they are broken for some users for some strange reason.

Macil · 07-24-2008, 02:51 PM

Hrmmm. Crap, you mean we have to post meaningful things now?

I've had fun in Starbucks over the years, but I agree most of it was a waste of bandwidth for lack of a better term. Doesn't RunUO have an IRC chat or something people could use instead? (I don't really keep too up to date on these things, so sorry if this question is common knowledge)

mordero · 07-24-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macil

Hrmmm. Crap, you mean we have to post meaningful things now?

I've had fun in Starbucks over the years, but I agree most of it was a waste of bandwidth for lack of a better term. Doesn't RunUO have an IRC chat or something people could use instead? (I don't really keep too up to date on these things, so sorry if this question is common knowledge)

Yep

irc.runuo.com

Tru · 07-24-2008, 02:53 PM

Wow...

I'm glad this community will be more focused on RunUO.

Thanks to the whole Dev Team for your continued support!!

Midnightdragon · 07-24-2008, 03:16 PM

I will be upping my participation from this point forward to help the community grow. I started keeping away a bit because of the problem we were having not that I didn't want to help out other users who were here for uo emulation but every time I browsed around on here I would see something that caused me irritation and figured I would rather avoid seeing those posts rather than reply to them and keep the fire burning.

skull77 · 07-24-2008, 04:18 PM

Starbucks is gone? Rep is gone? No reason for me to come here and waste any more of my time.

P.S. fuck soraged.

**Jeff** · 07-24-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skull77

Starbucks is gone? Rep is gone? No reason for me to come here and waste any more of my time.

P.S. fuck soraged.

Ass meet Door

Anti-Basic · 07-24-2008, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macil

Hrmmm. Crap, you mean we have to post meaningful things now?

I've had fun in Starbucks over the years, but I agree most of it was a waste of bandwidth for lack of a better term. Doesn't RunUO have an IRC chat or something people could use instead? (I don't really keep too up to date on these things, so sorry if this question is common knowledge)

While a lot of the talk that goes on in #runuo is off topic, and that's fine and dandy, but having it flooded with nothing but starbucks type nonsense would be harmful, and decrease the possibilities of people who join the channel looking for help, to be heard over the noise of said nonsense.

Again, not saying that off topicness is bad or anything, but I'd hate for the channel to be taken over by the likes of Twice/Kitchen and J Mann.

Vorspire · 07-24-2008, 04:36 PM

I love this decision, I was extremely delighted to see that rep and starbucks was removed, you finally decided to "take out the trash" and of course, the pieces that fell out the garbage can are leaving too.

I applaud the decision and will now not be distracted by StarBucks while I am trying to help this community... If anything, it will make my will to help that much stronger.

Thank you or making the right move, I'm sure the removal of StarBucks will also have a great impact on the web server's data transfer and space that can be better used for the more important forums here.

Regards,
Vorspire

Hammerhand · 07-24-2008, 04:43 PM

Starbucks WAS getting a bit "stale", so now the hole its being removed has created should allow some fresh air in. I'll miss the unmoderated part, but not the flames. Some posts were funny, some were thought provoking and some were just plain weird.. But lately, too many of them have just been lame and several just hurtful. R.I.P Starbucks
If some leave just because its gone.. *waves goodbye*. Most will probably stay and enjoy the fresh clean scent of the New & Improved RunUO Forums ( that sounds corny I know, but hey... I've been up since yesterday).
I wont be going to SoRaged, it isnt my kind of place. To me its a biker bar and I'm a skinny guy.

Karma gone, no biggie in my book. Couldnt buy anything with it, it wasnt edible, it was a lousy conversationalist and way too many were preoccupied with it.
So for those of you that want to leave... *points to the door*.
To Ryan and Crew. Keep up the good work. I would give you a 2 thumbs up, but the button for it fell off a while back and I couldnt get it to go back on. So I guess its gonna have to be a 2 virtual thumbs up.
Ok, I said my piece and its time for me to stop yakking and go to bed.

Vorspire · 07-24-2008, 04:49 PM

Maybe since StarBucks is gone, we can have rep back, because 100% of it will be legitimate now.. Just a thought

**David** · 07-24-2008, 04:53 PM

Honestly I am glad to see it go as well. It was fun and all but it was also a distraction to the purpose at hand and it had a way of regurgitating a cesspool feel that made this community seem very very unprofessional.

I applaud the changes.

Anti-Basic · 07-24-2008, 04:59 PM

Honestly, there was always some level of bullshit in starbucks, but I can remember it being mixed with good stuff. ie perplexing philosphical discussions mixed with threads about Swedish nympho ninjas, actual political -debates-, not " I don't agree with you, communist!" etc.

Take for example this thread: How? *Very Angry*

If he had made that yesterday, the responses would have been a lot more immature and less sincere then they were back then.

**Jeff** · 07-24-2008, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

Honestly, there was always some level of bullshit in starbucks, but I can remember it being mixed with good stuff. ie perplexing philosphical discussions mixed with threads about Swedish nympho ninjas, actual political -debates-, not " I don't agree with you, communist!" etc.

Take for example this thread: How? *Very Angry*

If he had made that yesterday, the responses would have been a lot more immature and less sincere then they were back then.

Im just sad cause we wont be able to find out any information regarding Joeku's new sexlife......................

Alex21 · 07-24-2008, 05:06 PM

Maybe instead of rep have something else, like something you get every time someone downloads a script you released? just a thought.

Vorspire · 07-24-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex21

Maybe instead of rep have something else, like something you get every time someone downloads a script you released? just a thought.

I don't tink that would be a very plausable thing to do, due the the ease of abusing that kind of system.

I still think peer-review would be the more functional kind of system to use in the field, however, that also has it's down-side;
Users could rate scripts biased;
However, th

07-24-2008, 12:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ryan RunUO Project Manager Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Harrison, OH Age: 30 Posts: 3,623	Forum updates The RunUO Forum known as “Starbucks” has been removed. With the recent decline in the stock market Starbucks has been forced to close many stores and has revoked our store! I jest… but at least it starts off light hearted eh? To assist with the long term goal of making RunUO a development community centered around RunUO and Ultima Online I have decided to remove the Starbucks forum. It’s a sad day I know but it’s become necessary due to the continued way people have treated the site. I thought it would be nice to have a place for users to post useless information and have fun but it over time its degraded into a complete mess and frankly I just can’t take it anymore. If you enjoyed Starbucks then I suggest that you use SoRaged.com Unmoderated Discussion which is our unmoderated forum to continue your discussions or otherwise contribute to this community. In the next few weeks we will be doing some more changes, posting some new rules and hopefully restoring the glory days for the forums and in general collaboration of RunUO (as well as fixing downloads!!!). We appreciate your continued support of RunUO and look forward to bringing this community back into perspective. __________________ Ryan McAdams RunUO Team - Project Manager

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Suil Ban Master of the Internet Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Age: 17 Posts: 14,546	Oh my goodness :C __________________ Now open - uo15.net - The best in Publish 15 emulation

07-24-2008, 12:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
milt Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lancaster, PA Age: 20 Posts: 1,606	Finally! __________________ --Milt, AKA Pokey

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Tru Forum Expert Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: California Age: 39 Posts: 3,260	Wow... I'm glad this community will be more focused on RunUO. Thanks to the whole Dev Team for your continued support!! __________________ My Scripts: HoodableRobe CellarAddon SeigeUpdates Refresh/CloneMe Commands VooDoo Dolls Lost Alchemy SVN 187 Updates: Bard System + Upgrade Ultima VII

07-24-2008, 04:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
Vorspire Forum Expert Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Newcastle, United Kingdom Age: 21 Posts: 2,295	I love this decision, I was extremely delighted to see that rep and starbucks was removed, you finally decided to "take out the trash" and of course, the pieces that fell out the garbage can are leaving too. I applaud the decision and will now not be distracted by StarBucks while I am trying to help this community... If anything, it will make my will to help that much stronger. Thank you or making the right move, I'm sure the removal of StarBucks will also have a great impact on the web server's data transfer and space that can be better used for the more important forums here. Regards, Vorspire __________________ RPK.VORSPIRE.COM - The WoW-UO Cross-Over Shard

07-24-2008, 12:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Amy- Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Age: 26 Posts: 60	Go Ryan!

07-24-2008, 01:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
Joeku Master of the Internet Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: ShatteredSosaria.com Posts: 9,252	'bout time :P

07-24-2008, 01:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tumeski Forum Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Finland Age: 20 Posts: 177	Well i didn't see that one coming. Its true that Starbucks was a bit... well Starbucks. Its Runuo's choice and well go with it. Personally i think that users need to focus more on the Runuo itself than the starbucks. Anyway it was fun and now lets get on with the serious business here as it should be...

07-24-2008, 01:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
b0b01 Forum Expert Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 554	Nice What does this mean? (as well as fixing downloads!!!)

07-24-2008, 02:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
Macil Forum Expert Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Harper Woods, Michigan Age: 21 Posts: 812	Hrmmm. Crap, you mean we have to post meaningful things now? I've had fun in Starbucks over the years, but I agree most of it was a waste of bandwidth for lack of a better term. Doesn't RunUO have an IRC chat or something people could use instead? (I don't really keep too up to date on these things, so sorry if this question is common knowledge)

07-24-2008, 03:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Midnightdragon Forum Expert Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 29 Posts: 613	I will be upping my participation from this point forward to help the community grow. I started keeping away a bit because of the problem we were having not that I didn't want to help out other users who were here for uo emulation but every time I browsed around on here I would see something that caused me irritation and figured I would rather avoid seeing those posts rather than reply to them and keep the fire burning.

07-24-2008, 04:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
skull77 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 42	Starbucks is gone? Rep is gone? No reason for me to come here and waste any more of my time. P.S. fuck soraged.

07-24-2008, 04:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
Hammerhand Forum Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Look behind you.... Age: 44 Posts: 1,305	Starbucks WAS getting a bit "stale", so now the hole its being removed has created should allow some fresh air in. I'll miss the unmoderated part, but not the flames. Some posts were funny, some were thought provoking and some were just plain weird.. But lately, too many of them have just been lame and several just hurtful. R.I.P Starbucks If some leave just because its gone.. waves goodbye. Most will probably stay and enjoy the fresh clean scent of the New & Improved RunUO Forums ( that sounds corny I know, but hey... I've been up since yesterday). I wont be going to SoRaged, it isnt my kind of place. To me its a biker bar and I'm a skinny guy. Karma gone, no biggie in my book. Couldnt buy anything with it, it wasnt edible, it was a lousy conversationalist and way too many were preoccupied with it. So for those of you that want to leave... points to the door. To Ryan and Crew. Keep up the good work. I would give you a 2 thumbs up, but the button for it fell off a while back and I couldnt get it to go back on. So I guess its gonna have to be a 2 virtual thumbs up. Ok, I said my piece and its time for me to stop yakking and go to bed. __________________ May you have the strength of eagles' wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom of the universe to carry you there.

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Vorspire Forum Expert Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Newcastle, United Kingdom Age: 21 Posts: 2,295	Maybe since StarBucks is gone, we can have rep back, because 100% of it will be legitimate now.. Just a thought __________________ RPK.VORSPIRE.COM - The WoW-UO Cross-Over Shard

07-24-2008, 04:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
David Moderate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,598	Honestly I am glad to see it go as well. It was fun and all but it was also a distraction to the purpose at hand and it had a way of regurgitating a cesspool feel that made this community seem very very unprofessional. I applaud the changes. __________________ David Forum Moderator The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Forum Rules and Guidelines RunUO Forum Search Engine Download RunUO 2.0 RC2

07-24-2008, 05:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
Alex21 Forum Expert Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia, Queensland, Sunshine Coast Age: 15 Posts: 1,125	Maybe instead of rep have something else, like something you get every time someone downloads a script you released? just a thought. __________________ Advertise Your Server On JoinUO! JoinUO @ - joinuo.com Last edited by Alex21; 07-24-2008 at 05:06 PM. Reason: spell check