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Courageous · 09-11-2006, 05:04 PM

Okie doke. Suggest you add /debug to your compile line for Server.exe. That way we can see where the serialization is having a tizzy. That might give us a little clue.

C//

Gembone · 09-11-2006, 05:10 PM

yeah I did the debug after the crash and it wouldn't start back up. reverted the save and all good. think it was a bad spawner imported from my 1.0. I dont have all the systems in place yet with this current 2.0 build I am working on. Not happy with my old one and some things needed updating anyway. but got it going thanks for the help

On another note. I have noticed with the tLoS system that it blocks vision with any item in the los. even things you would think you could see over without a problem. not sure if this is encluded in what you were saying about the hedges.

Another side note. Could the cache system you are using for this also be used for a lagfree poisonous swamp system? All the PS systems I have seem seem to cause alot of lag.

Courageous · 09-12-2006, 11:27 AM

Not sure what you're saying about blocking vision with any item in the LOS. That really shouldn't be. What kind of items are actually causing a LOL block? Did you validate this with [los effect ?

C//

Gembone · 09-12-2006, 12:59 PM

sorry to have put it as "item" sleep deprevation causes strange things. was talking about creatures and mobs in general. they disapear when behind small rock or bushes that you would think you should be able to see over. hope this is a little clearer

Courageous · 09-12-2006, 01:19 PM

Hmmmm. That shouldn't be, either. Can you post a screen snap somewhere of a "[los effect" showing the case? The LOS system uses the NoShoot flag to determine a LOS block from a tile. You might click [props on the tile to fetch the flags. or "[get flags" on the tile. Also tell me the tileid/itemid.

(In the evenings ... GMT-8/Pacific Time ... and weekends, I'm often on the #runuo IRC channel, and will happily log into your server to check things out if you need a hands on diagnosis; I really want LOS to work right for everyone).

BTW, to answer your poisonous swamps question: possibly. If the author is frequently fetching tiledata, that could be causing a significant (and unnecessary) I/O hit that a simple cache could overcome for frequently visited areas. Reference me a system to download and check, and I'll look into it. That might be fun optimization challenge...

C//

Gembone · 09-12-2006, 02:21 PM

trying to get a screen shot for you but not doinf it now that I can tell. will keep watching it. as far as the PS system I no longer have it sence a hd crash a while back and the forums have been wiped since I believe. it was an old .36 version I updated for 1.0 but have never seen it posted again. I will look thru some old backups and see what I can find. I would love to have poisonous swamps again but without the lag.

Courageous · 09-12-2006, 02:30 PM

Do keep in mind that land tiles themselves can block viz. If a land tile is higher than the location of the player's eyes, it will block LOS to tiles beyond mentioned tile. If mobs were allowed on mountains, this would create the strange case where you couldn't see a mob on the mountain, but it could see you (fortunately, this isn't allowed in runuo).

Every once in a while, where it's not mountains but slightly raised tiles that are doing th blocking, this can generate a correct but strange LOS result. A longer term solution might be to only do land-base LOS on mountain tile ids. Perhaps I should consider that...

C//

Gembone · 09-12-2006, 02:49 PM

I think it may have been the land tiles. was just south of mistas in Ilshenar.
as far as the swamp system I found one. here is a link to it. Poisonous swamps Its from early this year and haven't tried to update for 2.0
but its the first I found.

RavonTUS · 09-13-2006, 11:19 AM

Greetings,

I had time to code this and it appears to be working. I am not sure about the windows, either NPCs are not close enough or I am not close enough. I will play with it a little more.

WARNING WISHFUL THINKING BELOW...

I would like a little more reality into the LOS system with trees. It seems a little to easy to just run and hide behind a tree when being attacked by a monster.

If the monster had a 50% chance of following you around the tree, still unseen, and then jump out at you. That would be a little more realistic.

Good job!

-Ravon

Gembone · 09-13-2006, 11:45 AM

was messing with this last night and noticed this.

player char in house.
Lucids lumberyardaddon directly to the side.
only bits and pieces of the addon show up until I leave the house.
I think this is an addon issue with the LOS.

Courageous · 09-13-2006, 12:59 PM

Ravon: that's interesting. I admit, I haven't had much of a chance to test out the losForMobs feature yet. You could always turn that feature off if you don't like it until it gets better (losForMobs==npc mobs also do LOS). I do promise to look into it. I didn't know mobs stopped chasing if they lost LOS...

Gembone: haven't played with addons. I could see how the system might do what you describe: multis are the only item type that is immune to LOS on the server side. If I had some knowledge of how to detect an "addon", I could put some exceptions in.

You'll both be happy to hear that the "diagonal problem" has been fixed. This is the minor issue that occurs where some a few little squares along the diagonal from the player (UL,UR,LL,LR) sometimes incorrectly fail to exclude LOS. It's been fixed now in my code, and I'm thinking about doors at the moment. There's a current issue with doors.

(one easy fix would be to make doors like windows... regardless of whether they are opened or closed, you could only see thru them if you are within the window range parameter).

C//

Gembone · 09-13-2006, 04:58 PM

yea wasn't sure if you had messed with any of the large building type addons or not so I wanted to let you know. Glad to hear things are progressing for you. now when you release updates for this do we need to recompile the core again for them to take effect? I would think yes but just wanting to be sure for when you get the next update ready.

Courageous · 09-13-2006, 05:07 PM

Now when you release updates for this do we need to recompile the core again for them to take effect?

Yes. Deal is, the core doesn't really "know" about scripts. For example, PlayerMobile.cs isn't something the core "knows" about. For example, any changes I make to Mobile.cs and Map.cs, the core needs to resolve the moment I compile.

Send me a pm with regards to the addon system you are using. I'll have to play with it.

C//

Alari · 09-21-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gembone

I would love to have poisonous swamps again but without the lag.

Nobody ever said anything about lag when I originally posted it. (Except for me, warning about the possibility, since I don't have a large shard to test it on.) Did this start with 2.0 or did you have lag issues with 1.0 as well? About how many active (moving) players do you have on at a time? Did you modify the system to include NPCs as well? Answers to these will help me out when I update the script for 2.0. =)

Edit: To avoid hijacking this thread, please feel free to reply to me via PM or post in the original thread.

Courageous · 09-22-2006, 01:42 PM

Updated to 1.2B.

Notice: 1.2A, posted previously today, has a problem and was removed. Please use the 1.2B replacement.

Happy testing. Feature requests welcome.

C//

Gembone · 09-22-2006, 10:17 PM

hey C mountains still not blocking LOS. they are listed in the config.xml. I didn't see anything to toggle them on or off. so was just wondering if its part of the land tile problem you were having?

EDIT: ok mountains working.

Clayzzz · 10-01-2006, 11:09 AM

When I log onto my shard get this crash..

Quote:

Server Crash Report
===================

RunUO Version 2.0, Build 2464.34926
Operating System: Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
.NET Framework: 2.0.50727.42
Time: 30-09-2006 21:01:30
Mobiles: 0
Items: 2
Clients:
- Count: 1
+ 127.0.0.1: (account = admin)

Exception:
System.OverflowException: Arithmetic operation resulted in an overflow.
at Server.Utility.GetAddressValue(IPAddress address)
at Server.Network.AccountLoginAck..ctor(ServerInfo[] info)
at Server.Network.PacketHandlers.AccountLogin_ReplyAc k(NetState state)
at Server.Network.PacketHandlers.AccountLogin(NetStat e state, PacketReader pvSrc)
at Server.Network.MessagePump.HandleReceive(NetState ns)
at Server.Network.MessagePump.Slice()
at Server.Core.Main(String[] args)

Gembone · 10-01-2006, 11:25 AM

hey c thats a new one for ya. This systems has never crashed my server, so I have no where to guide you on this one
I believe he is also posting another update soon

Courageous · 10-01-2006, 12:20 PM

This crash log doesn't have any LOS code in the stack trace... and so this therefore appears to be quite unlikely to be a LOS problem. Be that as it may, if you can get your server running to where it prints line numbers in the log, I will take a peek at it.

C//

Mexifoo · 10-01-2006, 03:44 PM

IM haveing trobble figureing out what to do with the main.cs file and moble.cs file i dont know were to put or do wiht them lol :{ im such a newbie :{

Please why do people always give me bad karma i have done nothing wrong :{

Clayzzz · 10-01-2006, 03:44 PM

Oops sorry, wrong compile.. it works just fine now.

Courageous · 10-01-2006, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mexifoo

IM having trobble figureing out what to do with the main.cs file and moble.cs file i dont know were to put or do wiht them lol :{ im such a newbie...

You must learn how to recompile your core. This is a core mod, and requires some degree of expertise on your behalf. There's an unwritten rule around here to not explain to people how to compile the core. This rule is around because if you can't figure at least that much out, you probably shouldn't be doing it. The core is much more tempermental than the scripts, and really requires some programming ability.

Wish you the best.

C//

Courageous · 10-01-2006, 09:28 PM

Uploaded 1.3B.

Various fixes, tweaks, and changes in the log.

Most notable additions involve ambushes from building roofs.

Some fixes to undocumented previous problems also added, including a large scale fix for a lurking possible source of stutter.

C//

PhantomStranger · 10-02-2006, 01:31 PM

thank you.... brings a tear to my eye. exactly what ive been wanting, just never thought someone else would do it. thx

ABTOP · 02-07-2007, 10:51 PM

Please somebody explaim to me WHERE i need change map and mobile.cs???? What is it a files? I cant found they....

09-11-2006, 05:10 PM	#52 (permalink)
Gembone Forum Novice Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 208	yeah I did the debug after the crash and it wouldn't start back up. reverted the save and all good. think it was a bad spawner imported from my 1.0. I dont have all the systems in place yet with this current 2.0 build I am working on. Not happy with my old one and some things needed updating anyway. but got it going thanks for the help On another note. I have noticed with the tLoS system that it blocks vision with any item in the los. even things you would think you could see over without a problem. not sure if this is encluded in what you were saying about the hedges. Another side note. Could the cache system you are using for this also be used for a lagfree poisonous swamp system? All the PS systems I have seem seem to cause alot of lag. __________________ Death comes for us ALL Last edited by Gembone; 09-12-2006 at 10:02 AM.

09-12-2006, 12:59 PM	#54 (permalink)
Gembone Forum Novice Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 208	sorry to have put it as "item" sleep deprevation causes strange things. was talking about creatures and mobs in general. they disapear when behind small rock or bushes that you would think you should be able to see over. hope this is a little clearer __________________ Death comes for us ALL

09-12-2006, 01:19 PM	#55 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	Hmmmm. That shouldn't be, either. Can you post a screen snap somewhere of a "[los effect" showing the case? The LOS system uses the NoShoot flag to determine a LOS block from a tile. You might click [props on the tile to fetch the flags. or "[get flags" on the tile. Also tell me the tileid/itemid. (In the evenings ... GMT-8/Pacific Time ... and weekends, I'm often on the #runuo IRC channel, and will happily log into your server to check things out if you need a hands on diagnosis; I really want LOS to work right for everyone). BTW, to answer your poisonous swamps question: possibly. If the author is frequently fetching tiledata, that could be causing a significant (and unnecessary) I/O hit that a simple cache could overcome for frequently visited areas. Reference me a system to download and check, and I'll look into it. That might be fun optimization challenge... C// Last edited by Courageous; 09-12-2006 at 02:25 PM.

09-12-2006, 02:21 PM	#56 (permalink)
Gembone Forum Novice Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 208	trying to get a screen shot for you but not doinf it now that I can tell. will keep watching it. as far as the PS system I no longer have it sence a hd crash a while back and the forums have been wiped since I believe. it was an old .36 version I updated for 1.0 but have never seen it posted again. I will look thru some old backups and see what I can find. I would love to have poisonous swamps again but without the lag. __________________ Death comes for us ALL

09-12-2006, 02:30 PM	#57 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	Do keep in mind that land tiles themselves can block viz. If a land tile is higher than the location of the player's eyes, it will block LOS to tiles beyond mentioned tile. If mobs were allowed on mountains, this would create the strange case where you couldn't see a mob on the mountain, but it could see you (fortunately, this isn't allowed in runuo). Every once in a while, where it's not mountains but slightly raised tiles that are doing th blocking, this can generate a correct but strange LOS result. A longer term solution might be to only do land-base LOS on mountain tile ids. Perhaps I should consider that... C// Last edited by Courageous; 09-12-2006 at 02:36 PM.

09-11-2006, 05:04 PM	#51 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	Okie doke. Suggest you add /debug to your compile line for Server.exe. That way we can see where the serialization is having a tizzy. That might give us a little clue. C//

09-12-2006, 11:27 AM	#53 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	Not sure what you're saying about blocking vision with any item in the LOS. That really shouldn't be. What kind of items are actually causing a LOL block? Did you validate this with [los effect ? C//

09-12-2006, 02:49 PM	#58 (permalink)
Gembone Forum Novice Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 208	I think it may have been the land tiles. was just south of mistas in Ilshenar. as far as the swamp system I found one. here is a link to it. Poisonous swamps Its from early this year and haven't tried to update for 2.0 but its the first I found. __________________ Death comes for us ALL

09-13-2006, 11:19 AM	#59 (permalink)
RavonTUS Forum Novice Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in a house. Age: 39 Posts: 588	Greetings, I had time to code this and it appears to be working. I am not sure about the windows, either NPCs are not close enough or I am not close enough. I will play with it a little more. WARNING WISHFUL THINKING BELOW... I would like a little more reality into the LOS system with trees. It seems a little to easy to just run and hide behind a tree when being attacked by a monster. If the monster had a 50% chance of following you around the tree, still unseen, and then jump out at you. That would be a little more realistic. Good job! -Ravon __________________ Will RunUO work on Linux? Yes

09-13-2006, 11:45 AM	#60 (permalink)
Gembone Forum Novice Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 208	was messing with this last night and noticed this. player char in house. Lucids lumberyardaddon directly to the side. only bits and pieces of the addon show up until I leave the house. I think this is an addon issue with the LOS. __________________ Death comes for us ALL

09-13-2006, 12:59 PM	#61 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	Ravon: that's interesting. I admit, I haven't had much of a chance to test out the losForMobs feature yet. You could always turn that feature off if you don't like it until it gets better (losForMobs==npc mobs also do LOS). I do promise to look into it. I didn't know mobs stopped chasing if they lost LOS... Gembone: haven't played with addons. I could see how the system might do what you describe: multis are the only item type that is immune to LOS on the server side. If I had some knowledge of how to detect an "addon", I could put some exceptions in. You'll both be happy to hear that the "diagonal problem" has been fixed. This is the minor issue that occurs where some a few little squares along the diagonal from the player (UL,UR,LL,LR) sometimes incorrectly fail to exclude LOS. It's been fixed now in my code, and I'm thinking about doors at the moment. There's a current issue with doors. (one easy fix would be to make doors like windows... regardless of whether they are opened or closed, you could only see thru them if you are within the window range parameter). C// Last edited by Courageous; 09-13-2006 at 04:18 PM.

09-13-2006, 04:58 PM	#62 (permalink)
Gembone Forum Novice Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 208	yea wasn't sure if you had messed with any of the large building type addons or not so I wanted to let you know. Glad to hear things are progressing for you. now when you release updates for this do we need to recompile the core again for them to take effect? I would think yes but just wanting to be sure for when you get the next update ready. __________________ Death comes for us ALL

09-13-2006, 05:07 PM	#63 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	Now when you release updates for this do we need to recompile the core again for them to take effect? Yes. Deal is, the core doesn't really "know" about scripts. For example, PlayerMobile.cs isn't something the core "knows" about. For example, any changes I make to Mobile.cs and Map.cs, the core needs to resolve the moment I compile. Send me a pm with regards to the addon system you are using. I'll have to play with it. C// Last edited by Courageous; 10-20-2007 at 08:34 PM.

09-22-2006, 01:42 PM	#65 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	Updated to 1.2B. Notice: 1.2A, posted previously today, has a problem and was removed. Please use the 1.2B replacement. Happy testing. Feature requests welcome. C// Last edited by Courageous; 09-22-2006 at 07:03 PM.

09-22-2006, 10:17 PM	#66 (permalink)
Gembone Forum Novice Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 208	hey C mountains still not blocking LOS. they are listed in the config.xml. I didn't see anything to toggle them on or off. so was just wondering if its part of the land tile problem you were having? EDIT: ok mountains working. __________________ Death comes for us ALL Last edited by Gembone; 09-23-2006 at 11:09 AM.

10-01-2006, 11:25 AM	#68 (permalink)
Gembone Forum Novice Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 208	hey c thats a new one for ya. This systems has never crashed my server, so I have no where to guide you on this one I believe he is also posting another update soon __________________ Death comes for us ALL

10-01-2006, 12:20 PM	#69 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	This crash log doesn't have any LOS code in the stack trace... and so this therefore appears to be quite unlikely to be a LOS problem. Be that as it may, if you can get your server running to where it prints line numbers in the log, I will take a peek at it. C//

10-01-2006, 03:44 PM	#70 (permalink)
Mexifoo Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 124	IM haveing trobble figureing out what to do with the main.cs file and moble.cs file i dont know were to put or do wiht them lol :{ im such a newbie :{ Please why do people always give me bad karma i have done nothing wrong :{

10-01-2006, 03:44 PM	#71 (permalink)
Clayzzz Forum Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 13	Oops sorry, wrong compile.. it works just fine now.

10-01-2006, 09:28 PM	#73 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	Uploaded 1.3B. Various fixes, tweaks, and changes in the log. Most notable additions involve ambushes from building roofs. Some fixes to undocumented previous problems also added, including a large scale fix for a lurking possible source of stutter. C//

10-02-2006, 01:31 PM	#74 (permalink)
PhantomStranger Newbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: colorado Age: 20 Posts: 34	love is in the air... thank you.... brings a tear to my eye. exactly what ive been wanting, just never thought someone else would do it. thx

02-07-2007, 10:51 PM	#75 (permalink)
ABTOP Forum Novice Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ukraine Posts: 930	Please somebody explaim to me WHERE i need change map and mobile.cs???? What is it a files? I cant found they....

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