Request: Progress Report on Runuo 2 Please - RunUO

giric · 02-25-2006, 12:48 PM

Greetings to Ryan and the Dev Team!

Just asking if we could get a progress report on the status of Runuo 2.

I, like many other loyal Runuo fans are waiting to see just what excellence you guys come up with next.

This is not meant as a "Hurry up and release it, already!" or similar.
Just a "How is the project going?".

Last official word was back in October '05.

I understand that you want to hold off and make sure it is as bug-free as possible, and let's face it, WE would also like the release to be as bug-free as possible as well

So, please throw us a bone every now and then, even if it's only a "We're approximately 70% complete" or "Progress is a bit slow lately" or "We took a week off for RL considerations" etc etc.

Let's face it, as long as we keep asking about it, you know that you are coding something that will be wanted and appreciated.

Many thanks,

Giric

nomad707 · 02-25-2006, 02:42 PM

They keep it kind of closed up and not giving release dates for a reason, this makes them feel less pressured to finish quickly, and gives them more time to do what they want, with lots of love =)

**Zippy** · 02-25-2006, 03:58 PM

Request: Denied.

giric · 02-25-2006, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy

Request: Denied.

Hey, at least I got a reply from a Dev *grin*

Some slightly more encouraging words would have been nice, but what am I gonna do?

I asked nicely... Oh well

Giric

TMSTKSBK · 02-25-2006, 11:47 PM

Pretty please? :'(

With sugar and cherry?

Greystar · 02-26-2006, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giric

Hey, at least I got a reply from a Dev *grin*

Some slightly more encouraging words would have been nice, but what am I gonna do?

I asked nicely... Oh well

Giric

thing is you asked. The devs have already said don't ask, "essentially", in one thread or another, so i'm actually suprised you got a response of anykind. It will be ready, when it's ready. No sooner than that.

**Zippy** · 02-26-2006, 07:32 PM

Here a more specific but equally useless answer:
-We don't have a solid "goal" where we can reach it and say "2.0 is done." Its sort of fluid, sure we having things we know we want in it.... but we don't have enough of an idea to give any sort of percentage answer for this type of thing. Besides, those types of answers get you in trouble. (OMG you said 90% 2 weeks ago. You should be done NOW or I'm gonna DDoS you omgomgomg).
-All of us take a lot of "time off" for RL concerns. I think you have the wrong image about this in your head. I take "time off" from RL in order to put time into RunUO... not the other way around. (As is true with all the rest of the Devs). I think we're all more busy than anyone realizes.
To name a few things:
-Mark is in college
-I am in Graduate school
-I just got married
-All of us have jobs
-Krrios just moved to a new city and started a new job
-All of us run outside projects (PlayUO, Razor, UOGamers shards (4))

So there is a big list of reasons why you are unlikely to hear a real status report about anything we are working on until it comes knocking on your door step.

Alari · 02-27-2006, 12:08 PM

Whenever it comes out is fine with me, and I think pretty much everyone else here feels the same way. =) We all realize that developer logs, chats, and status reports take away from time that could be spent brainstorming, coding, and testing. (Or enjoying the rest of your life. =) I can't help but be curious, but that's just people's nature.

I'm both a little fearful of and looking forward to RunUO 2.0. I'll probably want to (if not have to) re-write everything I've written for it, since it's a good opportunity to clean out everything in my server and re-evaluate every modification and script I've added or written.

... shouldn't your icon read "Built C# Tough"? :>

Courageous · 02-27-2006, 12:29 PM

I take "time off" from RL in order to put time into RunUO...

That's about the most succinct way of explaining the hobby nature of this work to those expecting too much that I've seen. I have, of course, been asked many times to contribute to various coding efforts or even shard scripting and what not, which is flattering. But what one has to understand is that the moment such endeavors sound like "work," they don't sound like "fun". I pick projects because they are fun, entertaining, allow me to work on interesting problems and have a glass of wine at the same time. I am not interested in working on anything, really. A little bit of entertainment, a little bit of learning something new--that's more like it.

C//

**Zippy** · 02-27-2006, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alari

... shouldn't your icon read "Built C# Tough"? :>

No, that's krrios Icon.

C++ > C#

Celestria · 02-27-2006, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy

-I just got married

Congrats!!

TMSTKSBK · 02-27-2006, 06:53 PM

Ya, congrats on that...

(and we weren't invited??? :'( [all 60,000 of us O_o])

zardd · 02-27-2006, 07:08 PM

I settle with the answer the dev's say on one of the UO Gamers servers..

"It will be done when its done"

Sep102 · 02-27-2006, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy

No, that's krrios Icon.

C++ > C#

D > C++ > C#

Ahh, too bad it will never be anywhere near as widespread as the other two though...

XuriDabur · 02-28-2006, 06:28 AM

QBasic > D > C++ > C# ;P

Lysdexic · 02-28-2006, 07:26 AM

"Any well written code" > "Better Code Squabbles"

TMSTKSBK · 02-28-2006, 12:41 PM

Me > Your Mom

Savaal · 02-28-2006, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy

Here a more specific but equally useless answer:
-We don't have a solid "goal" where we can reach it and say "2.0 is done." Its sort of fluid, sure we having things we know we want in it.... but we don't have enough of an idea to give any sort of percentage answer for this type of thing. Besides, those types of answers get you in trouble. (OMG you said 90% 2 weeks ago. You should be done NOW or I'm gonna DDoS you omgomgomg).
-All of us take a lot of "time off" for RL concerns. I think you have the wrong image about this in your head. I take "time off" from RL in order to put time into RunUO... not the other way around. (As is true with all the rest of the Devs). I think we're all more busy than anyone realizes.
To name a few things:
-Mark is in college
-I am in Graduate school
-I just got married
-All of us have jobs
-Krrios just moved to a new city and started a new job
-All of us run outside projects (PlayUO, Razor, UOGamers shards (4))

So there is a big list of reasons why you are unlikely to hear a real status report about anything we are working on until it comes knocking on your door step.

Well, I don't care when its release because I know when it is we will ALL LOVE IT

and appreciate the work you guys put into it.

02-25-2006, 12:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
giric Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 75	Request: Progress Report on Runuo 2 Please Greetings to Ryan and the Dev Team! Just asking if we could get a progress report on the status of Runuo 2. I, like many other loyal Runuo fans are waiting to see just what excellence you guys come up with next. This is not meant as a "Hurry up and release it, already!" or similar. Just a "How is the project going?". Last official word was back in October '05. I understand that you want to hold off and make sure it is as bug-free as possible, and let's face it, WE would also like the release to be as bug-free as possible as well So, please throw us a bone every now and then, even if it's only a "We're approximately 70% complete" or "Progress is a bit slow lately" or "We took a week off for RL considerations" etc etc. Let's face it, as long as we keep asking about it, you know that you are coding something that will be wanted and appreciated. Many thanks, Giric __________________ Scott A Jones

02-25-2006, 02:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
nomad707 Forum Expert Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Age: 21 Posts: 1,568	They keep it kind of closed up and not giving release dates for a reason, this makes them feel less pressured to finish quickly, and gives them more time to do what they want, with lots of love =) __________________ Northern Born, Livin in the ghetto

02-25-2006, 03:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zippy Administrator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 25 Posts: 4,870	Request: Denied. __________________ Zippy, Razor Creator and RunUO Core Developer The RunUO Software Team "Intuition, like a flash of lightning, lasts only for a second. It generally comes when one is tormented by a difficult decipherment and when one reviews in his mind the fruitless experiments already tried. Suddenly the light breaks through and one finds after a few minutes what previous days of labor were unable to reveal." ~The Cryptonomicon

02-25-2006, 11:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
TMSTKSBK Master of the Internet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NC/NC State Univ Age: 23 Posts: 16,424	Pretty please? :'( With sugar and cherry? __________________ Goodbye, folks.

02-26-2006, 07:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Zippy Administrator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 25 Posts: 4,870	Here a more specific but equally useless answer: -We don't have a solid "goal" where we can reach it and say "2.0 is done." Its sort of fluid, sure we having things we know we want in it.... but we don't have enough of an idea to give any sort of percentage answer for this type of thing. Besides, those types of answers get you in trouble. (OMG you said 90% 2 weeks ago. You should be done NOW or I'm gonna DDoS you omgomgomg). -All of us take a lot of "time off" for RL concerns. I think you have the wrong image about this in your head. I take "time off" from RL in order to put time into RunUO... not the other way around. (As is true with all the rest of the Devs). I think we're all more busy than anyone realizes. To name a few things: -Mark is in college -I am in Graduate school -I just got married -All of us have jobs -Krrios just moved to a new city and started a new job -All of us run outside projects (PlayUO, Razor, UOGamers shards (4)) So there is a big list of reasons why you are unlikely to hear a real status report about anything we are working on until it comes knocking on your door step. __________________ Zippy, Razor Creator and RunUO Core Developer The RunUO Software Team "Intuition, like a flash of lightning, lasts only for a second. It generally comes when one is tormented by a difficult decipherment and when one reviews in his mind the fruitless experiments already tried. Suddenly the light breaks through and one finds after a few minutes what previous days of labor were unable to reveal." ~The Cryptonomicon

02-27-2006, 12:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Alari Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 1,364	Whenever it comes out is fine with me, and I think pretty much everyone else here feels the same way. =) We all realize that developer logs, chats, and status reports take away from time that could be spent brainstorming, coding, and testing. (Or enjoying the rest of your life. =) I can't help but be curious, but that's just people's nature. I'm both a little fearful of and looking forward to RunUO 2.0. I'll probably want to (if not have to) re-write everything I've written for it, since it's a good opportunity to clean out everything in my server and re-evaluate every modification and script I've added or written. ... shouldn't your icon read "Built C# Tough"? :> __________________ the-retelling.org : scripts and tech demo

02-27-2006, 12:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,825	I take "time off" from RL in order to put time into RunUO... That's about the most succinct way of explaining the hobby nature of this work to those expecting too much that I've seen. I have, of course, been asked many times to contribute to various coding efforts or even shard scripting and what not, which is flattering. But what one has to understand is that the moment such endeavors sound like "work," they don't sound like "fun". I pick projects because they are fun, entertaining, allow me to work on interesting problems and have a glass of wine at the same time. I am not interested in working on anything, really. A little bit of entertainment, a little bit of learning something new--that's more like it. C//

02-27-2006, 06:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
TMSTKSBK Master of the Internet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NC/NC State Univ Age: 23 Posts: 16,424	Ya, congrats on that... (and we weren't invited??? :'( [all 60,000 of us O_o]) __________________ Goodbye, folks.

02-27-2006, 07:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
zardd Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The land down under Posts: 122	I settle with the answer the dev's say on one of the UO Gamers servers.. "It will be done when its done"

02-28-2006, 06:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
XuriDabur Forum Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 109	QBasic > D > C++ > C# ;P

02-28-2006, 07:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
Lysdexic Forum Expert Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Minnesota... somewhere in the boonies Age: 29 Posts: 1,171	"Any well written code" > "Better Code Squabbles" __________________ Signatures are tools of the devil...

02-28-2006, 12:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
TMSTKSBK Master of the Internet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NC/NC State Univ Age: 23 Posts: 16,424	Me > Your Mom __________________ Goodbye, folks.

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