Windows VISTA - RunUO

InOverMyHead · 02-13-2007, 05:35 AM

I am contemplating on getting Vista.
Can I hear from those of you that have it already what your thoughts are.

Jason · 02-13-2007, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by InOverMyHead

I am contemplating on getting Vista.
Can I hear from those of you that have it already what your thoughts are.

Wait

For the whatever comes after Vista, since its going to be another Windows ME.

Gyges · 02-13-2007, 09:36 AM

I installed Vista Home Edition 64 on my system last weekend. So far its running great. It seems a bit snappier than XP 64 and it had no problems identifying all my hardware and loading appropriate drivers (which had always been a problem I've experienced with windows).

As for Runuo working with it; the only problems I had was with Aero theme. It causes nasty display problems with the mouse curser and prevents Razor from displaying counts in the Window Titlebar. So I turned it off. Now No problems.

Puron1794 · 02-13-2007, 10:36 AM

I have Vista Home Premium on my laptop, and just put Vista Ultimate on my main desktop pc (I left XP on my older "backup" desktop pc just in case).

I have to say that I have no complaints so far..in fact I like the fact that they've actually made it easier to find and tweak performance settings etc.
The setups are MUCH more "user friendly" than previous windows versions. You can easily switch from running for high performance to running for bells & whistles or any combination thereof.

I've heard / seen people complaining about it more than I've heard it praised, but tbh I've also noticed that 90% of the complainers don't even have Vista yet to have any "hands on" opinions.

I'd say your best bet is to go to a store that has Vista loaded on floor model pc's and try it out...play with it for awhile and see if it suits your personal tastes.

WeEzL · 02-13-2007, 11:11 AM

My advice is wait at least 6 months or until SP1 is out whichever comes first. Let Vista get established first... I too have heard quite a few complaints about Vista. I'm waiting for some of them to be addressed before I make the move.

Malaperth · 02-13-2007, 11:13 AM

I never touch a new Microsoft OS for at least 2 years after it's release. When a new one gets released, every 12 year old with more brains than sense seems to want to create a virus or something that will make users of the new os's lives miserable.

**Jeff** · 02-13-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Wait

For the whatever comes after Vista, since its going to be another Windows ME.

Its not another ME, Its accually really good, I've been using it since it was released and am SUPER happy with it.

Puron1794 · 02-13-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

Its not another ME, Its accually really good, I've been using it since it was released and am SUPER happy with it.

Finally someone else who's not pidgeon-holing it before they've even used it!
(glad I'm not the only who really likes it)

**Jeff** · 02-13-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Puron1794

Finally someone else who's not pidgeon-holing it before they've even used it!
(glad I'm not the only who really likes it)

Ya it looks good, Didnt have a issue with drivers( My computer is always new ), games run fine, programs run fine, I did however have an issue with VS.net but I think its my disc vs the OS, cause it installed fine at work.

Courageous · 02-13-2007, 12:44 PM

I have it installed. There are a variety of application compatibility issues (although a recent patch did remedy some of them). Example: photoshop didn't function properly.

It's a nice OS, and you should be looking forward to it. I'd recommend that you wait until SP1, though. I only installed it because I had a Hard Disk crash, and therefore the major scrub job one has to do with the new OS had to happen anyway.

UO client runs fine in Vista, btw.

C//

mordero · 02-13-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

Its not another ME, Its accually really good, I've been using it since it was released and am SUPER happy with it.

Same here. If you tried the beta and didnt like it (cause of bugs, compatibility, etc), you should try the release, its a lot better now.

InOverMyHead · 02-14-2007, 02:35 AM

WOW!!

Thanks for all the input
I think I've made up my mind.
I'll wait before I get Vista.

By the way Puron1794, you look much younger than 30.
Do you still get carded?...

jaynigs · 02-14-2007, 09:10 AM

Too much DRM for my liking.

Looks nice though, but yeah compatability can be a problem.

Erica · 02-14-2007, 10:27 AM

Only thing i noticed it is MSN Premium wont work with Windows Vista ive even looked for and update for MSN Premium for Windows Vista and no luck now Windows Live Messenger of MSN does work tho.

Puron1794 · 02-14-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by InOverMyHead

By the way Puron1794, you look much younger than 30.
Do you still get carded?...

Yes I do...for every friggin thing in the world. Cops have even accused me of having a fake ID

TheOutkastDev · 02-14-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Puron1794

Yes I do...for every friggin thing in the world. Cops have even accused me of having a fake ID

thats pretty sweet.

InOverMyHead · 02-15-2007, 05:21 AM

I wish I was swimming in your gene pool......LOL.

HellRazor · 02-15-2007, 05:29 AM

Does Vista support more than 4 gigs of memory?

I have a lot of memory going to waste because of memory limitations in XP.

WeEzL · 02-15-2007, 10:35 AM

The 4GB limitation is a limitation on 32-bit OSes in general... Windows or Linux, the same limit applies. It's not just XP. Only a 64-bit OS will be able to address more than 4GB.

HellRazor · 02-15-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WeEzL

The 4GB limitation is a limitation on 32-bit OSes in general... Windows or Linux, the same limit applies. It's not just XP. Only a 64-bit OS will be able to address more than 4GB.

I'd upgrade to a 64-bit OS but then there are the compatibility issues to worry about.

So what happens with all the memory above 4 gigs that you have installed? Its just totally wasted?

**Jeff** · 02-15-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WeEzL

The 4GB limitation is a limitation on 32-bit OSes in general... Windows or Linux, the same limit applies. It's not just XP. Only a 64-bit OS will be able to address more than 4GB.

At this point, i dont see why anyone upgrading should use the 32bit version. the 64bit version is so fast!

nomad707 · 02-15-2007, 01:13 PM

lol. so many of you are establishing opinions with 0 first hand expeirence

"my friends say its buggy so im going to wait"
"i heard it sucked"

NAH NAH NAH

Vista owns you.

btw, i got to use a computer in bootcamp, cool huh?

Ray · 02-15-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HellRazor

So what happens with all the memory above 4 gigs that you have installed? Its just totally wasted?

Unless you have a Windows server Advanced/Enterprise or Datacenter edition with a PAE supporting CPU, yes, it is wasted. All other 32bit windows packages do not even support more than 4gb at all. They don't even show up.

More about that:
More than 2 GB Address Space

To the LARGEADDRESSAWARE compilerflag:
I'm still not sure about that one under .Net, but as it is built as a VM with JIT Compiler, it should extend the memory automatically. If you know more about this, please tell me

Before someone here tries to buy and install the mentioned (and expensive) windows versions to adress all the 4GB of their system, be aware that you would still be limited to the first 3 gigs of memory, as at least 1 gb is always reserved for windows and the shared resources, afaik.

WeEzL · 02-15-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

At this point, i dont see why anyone upgrading should use the 32bit version. the 64bit version is so fast!

If they have an older CPU that doesn't have 64-bit extensions perhaps?

WeEzL · 02-15-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray

Unless you have a Windows server Advanced/Enterprise or Datacenter edition with a PAE supporting CPU, yes, it is wasted. All other 32bit windows packages do not even support more than 4gb at all. They don't even show up.

Just to add a couple points... To anyone considering Windows Server as an option, be aware that Windows Server 2003 Enterprise with the basic 5 client access licenses is a $3000 piece of software. It's possible to run out and buy it but it's a significant investment for most people.

Second, if you're using the 32-bit version of Windows Server, even if you have it maxed out memory wise, you're still going to run into the 2GB per process address limit with RunUO... unless of course, as Ray stated, it is possible to somehow compile the RunUO server .EXE to be large address aware so it could theoretically address 3GB.

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InOverMyHead Forum Novice Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a state of total and constant confusion Age: 52 Posts: 446	Windows VISTA I am contemplating on getting Vista. Can I hear from those of you that have it already what your thoughts are. __________________

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Gyges Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 41 Posts: 27	my 2 cents I installed Vista Home Edition 64 on my system last weekend. So far its running great. It seems a bit snappier than XP 64 and it had no problems identifying all my hardware and loading appropriate drivers (which had always been a problem I've experienced with windows). As for Runuo working with it; the only problems I had was with Aero theme. It causes nasty display problems with the mouse curser and prevents Razor from displaying counts in the Window Titlebar. So I turned it off. Now No problems.

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WeEzL Forum Expert Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North! Age: 33 Posts: 887	My advice is wait at least 6 months or until SP1 is out whichever comes first. Let Vista get established first... I too have heard quite a few complaints about Vista. I'm waiting for some of them to be addressed before I make the move. __________________ I R GEEK!

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InOverMyHead Forum Novice Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a state of total and constant confusion Age: 52 Posts: 446	WOW!! Thanks for all the input I think I've made up my mind. I'll wait before I get Vista. By the way Puron1794, you look much younger than 30. Do you still get carded?... __________________

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Courageous Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,824	I have it installed. There are a variety of application compatibility issues (although a recent patch did remedy some of them). Example: photoshop didn't function properly. It's a nice OS, and you should be looking forward to it. I'd recommend that you wait until SP1, though. I only installed it because I had a Hard Disk crash, and therefore the major scrub job one has to do with the new OS had to happen anyway. UO client runs fine in Vista, btw. C//

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jaynigs Forum Expert Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Age: 35 Posts: 986	Too much DRM for my liking. Looks nice though, but yeah compatability can be a problem.

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Erica Forum Expert Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Laramie Wyoming Age: 43 Posts: 1,276	Only thing i noticed it is MSN Premium wont work with Windows Vista ive even looked for and update for MSN Premium for Windows Vista and no luck now Windows Live Messenger of MSN does work tho. __________________

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WeEzL Forum Expert Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North! Age: 33 Posts: 887	The 4GB limitation is a limitation on 32-bit OSes in general... Windows or Linux, the same limit applies. It's not just XP. Only a 64-bit OS will be able to address more than 4GB. __________________ I R GEEK!

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nomad707 Forum Expert Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Age: 21 Posts: 1,567	lol. so many of you are establishing opinions with 0 first hand expeirence "my friends say its buggy so im going to wait" "i heard it sucked" NAH NAH NAH Vista owns you. btw, i got to use a computer in bootcamp, cool huh?