Fix the damn search function or something? - RunUO

Vis3R · 08-17-2007, 10:54 AM

The search function, to which so many users point when you ask a question, sucks so hard it's unbeliveable. You could have a cheap non-english-speaking chinese guy pick out better results than the search engine for these forums. I don't get across these forums often, because when i do, i can't find what i'm looking for, ever, and no i'm not the only one, everybody tells me the same thing.

If you don't filter out results, there's so many results that it probably just redirects you to runuo.com/forum/ and makes you find the answer yourself. But if you only just touch the filters, there's 0 results found. So please either enlighten us how this holy device works or just remove it cause it's a wastage of time and bandwidth.

Nott32 · 08-17-2007, 11:00 AM

o_O I think the search works just fine. Your search skills are t3h suck.

Anti-Basic · 08-17-2007, 11:18 AM

Change your wording. If you do not know how to effectively use the search engine here, you will not be able to effectively use any search engine, as the skills are pretty much the same as any other search engine, such as Google, which incidentally you can use to search this website as well.

here's how to search specific websites/domains in google:

Code:

the phrase you are searching for site:example.com

So if you wanted to find out how to change skillcaps you would input this

Code:

skillcaps modify change site:runuo.com

if runuo had other pages that were full of content you might have tried site:forums.runuo.com as that would only show pages from the forums (really unnecessary tho, since the forums are the only pages with loads of content)

Note that i also used both modify and change, as some people might choose one or the other in the thread, and this way it treats them both equally in the ordering process. That applies for all search engines.

But really, theres nothing wrong with the site's search engine except for the minimum of four letters, which I believe is a php or vB limitation.

Vis3R · 08-17-2007, 11:18 AM

Well then it seems you must be a 1337 H4X0R such as yourself to make it work, cause for all the people i've talked to, it didn't. They tell me just not to bother using the search cause if i can't find it by hand the search ain't gonna make it any easyer.

The problem is, every other search engine works just fine, except this waste of time of yours. And yes, the only way to find anything in this forum, is by using google with it's sintax that does work.

Four letter is not a php limitation, i believe the min-4-letter is in place to prevent too many results.

Anti-Basic · 08-17-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vis3R

Well then it seems you must be a 1337 H4X0R such as yourself to make it work, cause for all the people i've talked to, it didn't. They tell me just not to bother using the search cause if i can't find it by hand the search ain't gonna make it any easyer.

I highly doubt you know many people that use this site then, as most everybody here is able to find what they need with it, this is the first complaint I've seen of it.

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The problem is, every other search engine works just fine, except this waste of time of yours.

You are aware that the runuo team did not make the search engine, they are using a prepackaged forum software with its own included search engine, the people who designed the forum software made the search engine, and that search engine is used on every forum running said forum software, which is immensely popular, and used all over the place, with little to no complaints.

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And yes, the only way to find anything in this forum, is by using google with it's sintax that does work.

Bullshit. most people find what they need with the included search engine, you are one of the few exceptions. And if google with the site:runuo.com syntax works, why arent you using it and instead complaining about the built in search engine? sheesh

stormwolff · 08-17-2007, 11:47 AM

Works fine for me and I use it pretty much every day.

nadious · 08-17-2007, 12:00 PM

Now, I'm not in defense of the main poster here... but I do want to say that when I first started coming here and trying to find things on this site, the search function did aggravate the ever living crap out of me. It's not that it doesn't work, it's that it's so BROAD at what it finds... that a lot of times you have be extremely detailed as to what you are looking for.

Now, that being said... once someone pointed out to me the filters (in which I really didn't pay much attention to begin with...) I started to use the search function with a lot more success. Especially when you search just the thread titles only.... that narrows it down A LOT.

But still... there are threads that I've come across in the past that I can't ever seem to find, even when using the search engine... and it usually boils down to a certain keyword that use must know... (for example: 'duel' instead of 'pvp' or something like that...) that keeps you from finding exactly what you are looking for. If you don't use the 'topic filter', then you get TONS of results about threads that have nothing to do with it.

I'm not knocking the search function... because I know the RunUO team has not control over that... I just think that from time to time when people wanna nail someone to a cross and scream "use the search function!", that sometimes people have tried just that and haven't had much luck. If it wasn't for someone pointing out the topic filter.. I'd be just as lost as ever.

SetriC · 08-17-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nadious

I'm not knocking the search function... because I know the RunUO team has not control over that... I just think that from time to time when people wanna nail someone to a cross and scream "use the search function!", that sometimes people have tried just that and haven't had much luck. If it wasn't for someone pointing out the topic filter.. I'd be just as lost as ever.

Word .

Vis3R · 08-17-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

I highly doubt you know many people that use this site then, as most everybody here is able to find what they need with it, this is the first complaint I've seen of it.

There's enough to complain.

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Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

You are aware that the runuo team did not make the search engine, they are using a prepackaged forum software with its own included search engine, the people who designed the forum software made the search engine, and that search engine is used on every forum running said forum software, which is immensely popular, and used all over the place, with little to no complaints.

I'm very aware they didn't make the search. I was wondering how the F does the same search work on other forums i've been to, but not RunUO? It's either the search engine, or the users have so much bs to talk about it can't find what's what.

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Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

Bullshit. most people find what they need with the included search engine, you are one of the few exceptions. And if google with the site:runuo.com syntax works, why arent you using it and instead complaining about the built in search engine? sheesh

I am using it, but i have the right to complain about something i don't like, don't i

Tru · 08-17-2007, 12:15 PM

Indeed you have the right to complain....But should you?

Lets see anything you've ever recieved from this site you paid exactly how much for?

You contributed what exactly to this community to help improve it?

As for your baseless claim about the search function...I use it daily to help answer questions others dont feel like wasting thier time searching for, or in your case people who say they can't find what they are looking for. In most cases it answers my questions so I dont have to post them.
Why don't you give us an example of what your looking for, I'd be happy to show you just how well the search function works. Provided your search has been addressed in the past.

Vis3R · 08-17-2007, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru

Lets see anything you've ever recieved from this site you paid exactly how much for?

I know, I know - You get what you pay for.

Back on topic, nevermind, it was not that exact thing that i couldn't find, it was lots of things, now and in the past... Anyway, i'm off, as i said i don't get by very often... and i'm about to go waste my time elsewhere, cya

HellRazor · 08-17-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vis3R

Well then it seems you must be a 1337 H4X0R such as yourself to make it work, cause for all the people i've talked to, it didn't.

Only if you define a "1337 H4X0R" as a person with an IQ over 10.

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They tell me just not to bother using the search cause if i can't find it by hand the search ain't gonna make it any easyer.

To use the search function effectively, correct spelling is needed. For example, searching for "easyer" won't turn up anything except for this post. (And possibly Joeku, but we won't go there).

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The problem is, every other search engine works just fine, except this waste of time of yours.

Seeing as how the vast majority of forums use this same forum software with the same exact search engine, I think the only waste of time here is the time we have wasted reading and responding to your post.

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And yes, the only way to find anything in this forum, is by using google with it's sintax that does work.

I thought a sin tax was something a state puts on beer and cigarettes.

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Four letter is not a php limitation, i believe the min-4-letter is in place to prevent too many results.

It's set up that way because that's the average number of letters in a word that you can spell correctly.

Some advice. It's damned rude to tell people providing you a damned free service to fix their damned forum. (Yes, it's "damned" not "damn").

Nott32 · 08-17-2007, 12:38 PM

+Karama to HellRazor

Vis3R · 08-17-2007, 12:40 PM

Ooh what do we have here, a wannabe internet teacher?

I know you have nothing smart to say, but you see, somebody has to pay for the useless bs you put on these forums, and that's your beloved ryan.
2,882 posts? Thats alot of bandwidth to pay for your bs, i would sue you.

Nott32 · 08-17-2007, 12:42 PM

0.o Go bitch on someone elses forum cuz we really DONT CARE.

Vis3R · 08-17-2007, 12:44 PM

It seems like there's alot of people that DO care

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 7 (7 members and 0 guests)
Vis3R, stormwolff, Nott32, Hammerhand, HellRazor, Jeff, korupt

Go hack me a sandwich together, nub.

Anti-Basic · 08-17-2007, 12:46 PM

Hrm Jeffs watching....

lock in 5 4 3 2 1?

actually he might not do it just to make my prediction false.

Nott32 · 08-17-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vis3R

It seems like there's alot of people that DO care

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 7 (7 members and 0 guests)
Vis3R, stormwolff, Nott32, Hammerhand, HellRazor, Jeff, korupt

Go hack me a sandwich together, nub.

NO. And its just fun to see you getting yelled at.

Hammerhand · 08-17-2007, 12:48 PM

HHhmmm.. lets see... how much trouble have I had with the search engine? ... *thinks* ..... *thinks some more* (ouch) What was the topic about again? I just got a headache from thinking..... Oh yeah.. the search engine. I've had no troubles with it what so ever. Sure, maybe I find more than the 1 tiny lil thing I was looking for, but it usually ends up providing me with more information than I figured I would get. Theres an old saying concerning computers which fits search engines PERFECTLY... "Garbage In, Garbage Out". Know what your looking for from the beginning, not some vague notion and you just might find its actually helpful. Works for me everytime.

Vis3R · 08-17-2007, 12:49 PM

Getting yelled at? Over the internet?
You should really put less feelings on things that are being said on the internet, you eventually will, when you grow up.

Nott32 · 08-17-2007, 12:53 PM

Get this into your head:

I HAVE NO LIFE

according to my girlfriend like 5 seconds ago xD

Vis3R · 08-17-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nott32

Get this into your head:

I HAVE NO LIFE

according to my girlfriend like 5 seconds ago xD

That's what all no-life no-girlfriend geeks say, nub

gg

Nott32 · 08-17-2007, 02:11 PM

and you haven't left yet why?

Hammerhand · 08-17-2007, 02:12 PM

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when you grow up.

Kinda funny from a 28 yr old thats immature enough to say this to a 15 yr old..

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That's what all no-life no-girlfriend geeks say, nub

Ok.. maybe not funny.. more like sad. I'm glad I grew out of that phase.. at about the age of 12. I figured this would degenerate into name calling and such. Sucks to be right sometimes, ya' know? And all over 1 persons problem with the search engine.

HellRazor · 08-17-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vis3R

Ooh what do we have here, a wannabe internet teacher?

You can only teach those with the capacity for learning. That usually requires higher brain functions.

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I know you have nothing smart to say, but you see, somebody has to pay for the useless bs you put on these forums, and that's your beloved ryan.

It's always amusing when functional illiterates give us a critique on the intelligence of others.

Amusing in a sad, pathetic kind of way. Kind of the same feeling you get watching Gilbert Grape.

08-17-2007, 10:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Vis3R Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 29 Posts: 36	Fix the damn search function or something? The search function, to which so many users point when you ask a question, sucks so hard it's unbeliveable. You could have a cheap non-english-speaking chinese guy pick out better results than the search engine for these forums. I don't get across these forums often, because when i do, i can't find what i'm looking for, ever, and no i'm not the only one, everybody tells me the same thing. If you don't filter out results, there's so many results that it probably just redirects you to runuo.com/forum/ and makes you find the answer yourself. But if you only just touch the filters, there's 0 results found. So please either enlighten us how this holy device works or just remove it cause it's a wastage of time and bandwidth.

08-17-2007, 11:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Nott32 Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In front of my computer... Age: 16 Posts: 562	o_O I think the search works just fine. Your search skills are t3h suck. __________________ Everytime a puppy gets hit by a car from me smoking I take another drag, point, and laugh.

08-17-2007, 11:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
Vis3R Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 29 Posts: 36	Well then it seems you must be a 1337 H4X0R such as yourself to make it work, cause for all the people i've talked to, it didn't. They tell me just not to bother using the search cause if i can't find it by hand the search ain't gonna make it any easyer. The problem is, every other search engine works just fine, except this waste of time of yours. And yes, the only way to find anything in this forum, is by using google with it's sintax that does work. Four letter is not a php limitation, i believe the min-4-letter is in place to prevent too many results. Last edited by Vis3R; 08-17-2007 at 11:29 AM.

08-17-2007, 12:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tru Forum Expert Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: California Age: 39 Posts: 3,260	Indeed you have the right to complain....But should you? Lets see anything you've ever recieved from this site you paid exactly how much for? You contributed what exactly to this community to help improve it? As for your baseless claim about the search function...I use it daily to help answer questions others dont feel like wasting thier time searching for, or in your case people who say they can't find what they are looking for. In most cases it answers my questions so I dont have to post them. Why don't you give us an example of what your looking for, I'd be happy to show you just how well the search function works. Provided your search has been addressed in the past. __________________ My Scripts: HoodableRobe CellarAddon SeigeUpdates Refresh/CloneMe Commands VooDoo Dolls Lost Alchemy SVN 187 Updates: Bard System + Upgrade Ultima VII Last edited by Tru; 08-17-2007 at 12:17 PM.

08-17-2007, 12:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
Nott32 Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In front of my computer... Age: 16 Posts: 562	+Karama to HellRazor __________________ Everytime a puppy gets hit by a car from me smoking I take another drag, point, and laugh.

08-17-2007, 11:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
stormwolff Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Internet Age: 28 Posts: 3,510	Works fine for me and I use it pretty much every day.

08-17-2007, 12:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
nadious Forum Expert Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: (Near) Atlanta, GA Posts: 369	Now, I'm not in defense of the main poster here... but I do want to say that when I first started coming here and trying to find things on this site, the search function did aggravate the ever living crap out of me. It's not that it doesn't work, it's that it's so BROAD at what it finds... that a lot of times you have be extremely detailed as to what you are looking for. Now, that being said... once someone pointed out to me the filters (in which I really didn't pay much attention to begin with...) I started to use the search function with a lot more success. Especially when you search just the thread titles only.... that narrows it down A LOT. But still... there are threads that I've come across in the past that I can't ever seem to find, even when using the search engine... and it usually boils down to a certain keyword that use must know... (for example: 'duel' instead of 'pvp' or something like that...) that keeps you from finding exactly what you are looking for. If you don't use the 'topic filter', then you get TONS of results about threads that have nothing to do with it. I'm not knocking the search function... because I know the RunUO team has not control over that... I just think that from time to time when people wanna nail someone to a cross and scream "use the search function!", that sometimes people have tried just that and haven't had much luck. If it wasn't for someone pointing out the topic filter.. I'd be just as lost as ever.

08-17-2007, 12:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vis3R Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 29 Posts: 36	Ooh what do we have here, a wannabe internet teacher? I know you have nothing smart to say, but you see, somebody has to pay for the useless bs you put on these forums, and that's your beloved ryan. 2,882 posts? Thats alot of bandwidth to pay for your bs, i would sue you.

08-17-2007, 12:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Nott32 Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In front of my computer... Age: 16 Posts: 562	0.o Go bitch on someone elses forum cuz we really DONT CARE. __________________ Everytime a puppy gets hit by a car from me smoking I take another drag, point, and laugh.

08-17-2007, 12:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
Vis3R Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 29 Posts: 36	It seems like there's alot of people that DO care Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 7 (7 members and 0 guests) Vis3R, stormwolff, Nott32, Hammerhand, HellRazor, Jeff, korupt Go hack me a sandwich together, nub.

08-17-2007, 12:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
Hammerhand Forum Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Look behind you.... Age: 44 Posts: 1,356	HHhmmm.. lets see... how much trouble have I had with the search engine? ... thinks ..... thinks some more (ouch) What was the topic about again? I just got a headache from thinking..... Oh yeah.. the search engine. I've had no troubles with it what so ever. Sure, maybe I find more than the 1 tiny lil thing I was looking for, but it usually ends up providing me with more information than I figured I would get. Theres an old saying concerning computers which fits search engines PERFECTLY... "Garbage In, Garbage Out". Know what your looking for from the beginning, not some vague notion and you just might find its actually helpful. Works for me everytime. __________________ May you have the strength of eagles' wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom of the universe to carry you there.

08-17-2007, 12:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
Vis3R Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 29 Posts: 36	Getting yelled at? Over the internet? You should really put less feelings on things that are being said on the internet, you eventually will, when you grow up.

08-17-2007, 12:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
Nott32 Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In front of my computer... Age: 16 Posts: 562	Get this into your head: I HAVE NO LIFE according to my girlfriend like 5 seconds ago xD __________________ Everytime a puppy gets hit by a car from me smoking I take another drag, point, and laugh.

08-17-2007, 02:11 PM	#23 (permalink)
Nott32 Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In front of my computer... Age: 16 Posts: 562	and you haven't left yet why? __________________ Everytime a puppy gets hit by a car from me smoking I take another drag, point, and laugh.