Question about Expansion.None - RunUO

Varchild · 09-07-2007, 09:46 AM

Hi all.

I would like to know: on a server with Expansion.None setted, all main engines (combat, craft...) would be completed or they should be scripted from scratch?
What other aspect should be scripted to run a pre-Aos shard (Expansion.None is equivalent to pre-AoS?

)?

^_^

Lord_Greywolf · 09-07-2007, 01:49 PM

from my experience trying to help a friend with this, there are a lot of litle things that need to be tweaked to work right
this also includes those those that have posted in the script support section for it also

pre-AOS is a pain to get fully working
besides the scripts, there are also files that have to be modified and patched to players (like bodyconv.def - that changed the animations around)

also there is no way of running it with the current OSI patch - make sure you are below 5.0.91 for the server and players (it could be done - but a shiload of map and other mods also then)

It can be done, but it is not just as simple as making it expansion none

Alex21 · 09-08-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Greywolf

besides the scripts, there are also files that have to be modified and patched to players (like bodyconv.def - that changed the animations around)

i think it is actually harder to do this in reverse eg. being able to use anim3.mul with the Pre-AOS packet is not possible.

**Zippy** · 09-09-2007, 10:56 AM

Bodyconv.def does not *have* to be altered. See UO Gamers: Divinity - Ulitma Online Freeshard. There are ways around most stuff. We used to have a Pre-T2A server (named "UOGamers: Rebirth") that required not a single client modification to work properly.

Varchild · 09-10-2007, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy

Bodyconv.def does not *have* to be altered. See UO Gamers: Divinity - Ulitma Online Freeshard. There are ways around most stuff. We used to have a Pre-T2A server (named "UOGamers: Rebirth") that required not a single client modification to work properly.

I think in any case bodyconv needs not to be edited.
It contains strings in this format:

Code:

# <Object> <LBR version (anim2)> <AoS version (anim3)> <AoW version (anim4)><Mondain version (anim5)>

So for a chief parox in ML:

256 -1 -1 -1 15 #Chief Paroxysmus

Obv if anim 256 in anim.mul doesn not exist there will be problems...

However: UoGamers: Hybrid is fantastic. I've started to play there 3 days ago and feelings about walking in a pre-aos world are incredible.

My question to zippy is, are there engines that have to be built from 0 to build up a server like Hybrid or Combat, Craft etc are just ready to play?

^_^

**Mark** · 09-10-2007, 04:46 AM

I wrote combat on Hybrid to Pre-AOS specifications but I haven't ported any of the changes back to RunUO.

I'd say melee combat and spell damages are your biggest hurdles (real pre-AOS weapons use dice damages for one).

Varchild · 09-10-2007, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

I wrote combat on Hybrid to Pre-AOS specifications but I haven't ported any of the changes back to RunUO.

I think runuo community would give u a virtual-nobel-prize (me first) if you could release it.

PS: Today I've learnt all about svn (server side). Great!

^_^

09-07-2007, 09:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
Varchild Forum Novice Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Gorizia - Italy Age: 28 Posts: 193	Question about Expansion.None Hi all. I would like to know: on a server with Expansion.None setted, all main engines (combat, craft...) would be completed or they should be scripted from scratch? What other aspect should be scripted to run a pre-Aos shard (Expansion.None is equivalent to pre-AoS? )? ^_^ __________________ Dies Iræ, dies illa solvet sæclum in favilla Developer only on Midgard Shard

09-07-2007, 01:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lord_Greywolf Forum Master Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,626	from my experience trying to help a friend with this, there are a lot of litle things that need to be tweaked to work right this also includes those those that have posted in the script support section for it also pre-AOS is a pain to get fully working besides the scripts, there are also files that have to be modified and patched to players (like bodyconv.def - that changed the animations around) also there is no way of running it with the current OSI patch - make sure you are below 5.0.91 for the server and players (it could be done - but a shiload of map and other mods also then) It can be done, but it is not just as simple as making it expansion none __________________ http://www.AoAUO.com :) ..... Come for the Customs, Play for the Fun. Return to see your new Friends ..... :)

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Zippy Administrator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 25 Posts: 4,868	Bodyconv.def does not have to be altered. See UO Gamers: Divinity - Ulitma Online Freeshard. There are ways around most stuff. We used to have a Pre-T2A server (named "UOGamers: Rebirth") that required not a single client modification to work properly. __________________ Zippy, Razor Creator and RunUO Core Developer The RunUO Software Team "Intuition, like a flash of lightning, lasts only for a second. It generally comes when one is tormented by a difficult decipherment and when one reviews in his mind the fruitless experiments already tried. Suddenly the light breaks through and one finds after a few minutes what previous days of labor were unable to reveal." ~The Cryptonomicon

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09-10-2007, 04:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mark Forum Administrator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,548	I wrote combat on Hybrid to Pre-AOS specifications but I haven't ported any of the changes back to RunUO. I'd say melee combat and spell damages are your biggest hurdles (real pre-AOS weapons use dice damages for one).

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