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jjarmis · 02-04-2005, 11:07 PM

Man, just stop being a wise guy, it is really annoying. If you want any more info about what is legal, call a lawyer.

sidphoenix · 02-04-2005, 11:09 PM

I have 2 lawyers to be exact. To tell you the truth, its legal to have someone do it for me. And I am sorry for being a wise guy, but I would rather be a smartass than a dumbass any day.

sidphoenix · 02-04-2005, 11:17 PM

Before I finish, I want to add. In the source code distribution file, it plainly states:

"When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not
price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you
have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for
this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it
if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it
in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things."

Technically according to the GNU Pub release, as long as I give credit to the RunUO owner/developers, I can edit and distribute all I want, if I dont sell it for a profit.

Codeus · 02-04-2005, 11:20 PM

Does someone have a link to the EULA, cause I can't seem to find it.
Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the current version (1.0.0) released under the GPL?

sidphoenix · 02-04-2005, 11:22 PM

Yes it is, and according to the license, I can edit and distribute at my will.

sidphoenix · 02-04-2005, 11:31 PM

And just to make it more clear, OSI (Opensource.org) says:

"3. Derived Works

The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software.

Rationale: The mere ability to read source isn't enough to support independent peer review and rapid evolutionary selection. For rapid evolution to happen, people need to be able to experiment with and redistribute modifications."

Saying that we can edit and redistribute the edited copy.

**ASayre** · 02-05-2005, 01:14 AM

You can redistribute the edited copy AS LONG AS you include the original source with it too, and the GPL Notice itself with it.

sidphoenix · 02-05-2005, 01:29 AM

I know GPL like the back of my hand, and from the start jjarmis was wrong. Also I would like to see a copy of this "EULA" if you dont mind.

jjarmis · 02-05-2005, 02:23 AM

I was just reinforcing what Quantos, a MODERATOR said, so dont try to blow this up in my face.

**ASayre** · 02-05-2005, 02:57 AM

Quantos was right: You CAN'T distribute JUST the exe.
sidphoenix was right.. partially...: You can redistribute the exe AS LONG AS you also distribute ALL of the exe's code with it, and the GPL along with it.
jjarmis was right: Read what Quantos said.

Thread locked. jjarmis, thanks for the bug report/fix.

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ASayre RunUO Developer/Demise Person Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: California Age: 20 Posts: 1,700	You can redistribute the edited copy AS LONG AS you include the original source with it too, and the GPL Notice itself with it. __________________ Andre Sayre, Core Developer The RunUO Software Team The day we are born is the day Death inches ever closer... E-mail: ASayre ( AT ) RunUO ( Dot ) c o m I'm as graceful as a gazelle galloping over glistening green grass with it's head on fire.

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jjarmis Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,069	I was just reinforcing what Quantos, a MODERATOR said, so dont try to blow this up in my face. __________________ HI!

02-05-2005, 02:57 AM	#35 (permalink)
ASayre RunUO Developer/Demise Person Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: California Age: 20 Posts: 1,700	Quantos was right: You CAN'T distribute JUST the exe. sidphoenix was right.. partially...: You can redistribute the exe AS LONG AS you also distribute ALL of the exe's code with it, and the GPL along with it. jjarmis was right: Read what Quantos said. Thread locked. jjarmis, thanks for the bug report/fix. __________________ Andre Sayre, Core Developer The RunUO Software Team The day we are born is the day Death inches ever closer... E-mail: ASayre ( AT ) RunUO ( Dot ) c o m I'm as graceful as a gazelle galloping over glistening green grass with it's head on fire.

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02-04-2005, 11:09 PM	#27 (permalink)
sidphoenix Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	I have 2 lawyers to be exact. To tell you the truth, its legal to have someone do it for me. And I am sorry for being a wise guy, but I would rather be a smartass than a dumbass any day.

02-04-2005, 11:17 PM	#28 (permalink)
sidphoenix Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	Before I finish, I want to add. In the source code distribution file, it plainly states: "When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things." Technically according to the GNU Pub release, as long as I give credit to the RunUO owner/developers, I can edit and distribute all I want, if I dont sell it for a profit.

02-04-2005, 11:20 PM	#29 (permalink)
Codeus Forum Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 269	Does someone have a link to the EULA, cause I can't seem to find it. Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the current version (1.0.0) released under the GPL?

02-04-2005, 11:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
sidphoenix Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	Yes it is, and according to the license, I can edit and distribute at my will.

02-04-2005, 11:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
sidphoenix Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	And just to make it more clear, OSI (Opensource.org) says: "3. Derived Works The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software. Rationale: The mere ability to read source isn't enough to support independent peer review and rapid evolutionary selection. For rapid evolution to happen, people need to be able to experiment with and redistribute modifications." Saying that we can edit and redistribute the edited copy.

02-05-2005, 01:29 AM	#33 (permalink)
sidphoenix Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	I know GPL like the back of my hand, and from the start jjarmis was wrong. Also I would like to see a copy of this "EULA" if you dont mind.

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