I'm Doing This For School, No Seriously, I Am - RunUO

Anti-Basic · 01-28-2006, 02:07 AM

My Name's Matt And I'm From Lusiana (Thats Not A Misspelling Thats How We Say It) And I've Played UO For About A Year and a Half.
I Decided to Make A Freeshard for A School Project, Which the Teacher Agreed to Since It Would Be a Way to Teach C# That Students Can Actually See Nice Results From (Before That We Were Doing Crappy Progs that Basically did nothing but math) However My Teacher Has some concerns B4 We Can start. They Are:

1) Is RunUO Legal? I Know when EA Bought out OSI there was a lot of bad Stuff Between them but did it make freeshards legal and if so can i have proof which i can present to my teacher. (IMHO EA Still Charging for A Game made in the 90s is Stupid But Teach won't do anything illegal)

2) Is There A Way to Run UO on a LAN without using the Internet At ALL? The School Board Restricts Our School's Bandwidth; And We Are Just Doing It to Experiment And Have Fun Afterschool So Don't Need Web

3) Whats the Best C# Editor To Use for RunUO Scripts. We Have Several C/C++ Editors, But None for C# And Since Our Town Has a Population of About 2000 (Including Cattle) Its Budget Is Limited So It Needs To Be Cheap Or Free

Any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated

Viago · 01-28-2006, 02:18 AM

you can download the UO client freely and legaly from EA's own FTP
Runuo is legal, this has been said mannnnnnnny times

you can connect throught lan, by using UOG just on uogateway's tool create local server listing, then put in that server's IP addy and port, and connect.

you can use notepad, simplest editor, however, ive been using Dreamweaver MX 8 for years. Many other people use the one from microsoft.

Johabius · 01-28-2006, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

Also EA Owned Origin whole time? then why did richard garriot leave, i thought he left?

Here's a little bit of info I found about Origin Systems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_Systems

Dunno exactly how accurate this information is, but wikipedia is usually pretty relaible from my experience.

mark01970 · 01-28-2006, 06:30 AM

On the subject of an editor, I found and have been using a really nice text editor. It is compact but has lots of features geared towards programming in as far as auto-tabbing, and it displays color formatting if you do things like html. I recommend everyone check it out at least for RunUO scripting. It is shareware, but worth registering.

TextPad v4.7.3

WarAngel · 01-28-2006, 05:43 PM

EditPlus is like TextPad, but a step up. ^_^

bzk90 · 01-29-2006, 02:57 AM

@anti basic, from what i understand, richards father was an astronaught of something along that line. I know his family was attatched to nasa in some form of another.

Johabius · 01-29-2006, 03:42 AM

His father was indeed an astronaut. Owen K. Garriott was a former NASA astronaut who spent 60 days aboard Skylab in 1973 and 10 days aboard Spacelab-1 in 1983.

**ASayre** · 01-30-2006, 05:41 AM

Anyways, back to the main subject:

1) RunUO is 100% legal. Just don't distribute UO or THEIR files. To get UO, Download it directly from EA at http://largedownloads.ea.com/pub/uo/uoml_setup.exe

2) Of course. RunUO doesn't require the internet. Just use Razor or UOGateway or whatever point to the internal IP, err... the IP of the computer within the lan.

3) http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualcsharp/ <- It's free for... forever as long as you download it before november. Visual Studio is the best out there, especailly in a learning environment. Easy access To information, ie, to facilitate teaching how to Code, not how to code in a certain language. (Intellisense)

Anyways, It's good to see teachers opening up and atleast thinking of the possibility. A long long long long long time ago back when I was still in the normal school system, I had a teacher who was running a UO shard for fun on the school machines, even over the summer. But then some dullbob dumb-as-rock student went to buy UO from the store, and asked the stupid clerk at the store wether or not it's legal...

Obviously the clerk didn't know answers from asparagus and said it wasn't, and said student told the teacher what the clerk said and then he decided to close it.

But yea. End rant.

Macil · 01-30-2006, 06:33 PM

I don't claim to know heads from tails with programming in any language, so don't anyone beat me up over my input, I just want to help, heh.

I use Crimson Editor when I do anything in RunUO and it works great, maybe your teacher has heard of it?

**ASayre** · 01-31-2006, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

I Pretty Much Figured This Along, But Came Across Startics Article Which Said It Was Illegal Unless For House Decor Contests But Date On Article Was Old...Like LBR Old But Still Be On Safe Side Asked Here

Well, it IS against the Terms of Service, but all that it allows them to do is ban anyone from THEIR servers if they find out. And they really don't do that unless you're going around advertising it on OSI or whatever. But, they can technically ban you just cause it's a monday, so that's not a big deal

Ariakas772005 · 02-04-2006, 01:24 AM

Richard garret owned a 50 50 partnership in osi with the guy that made ultims 1-8 ( forgot his name but it was his brother) and left before ea bought stock in it. Its because he left that ea got thier mits in it. Doesnt anyone watch icons? and of course he got lots of money wouldnt you?

What pissed me off is that everquest got more credit for pioneering mmporpg than uo from g4. I guess cuz its the first 1st person 3d online game I dont know

Oh and my 2 cents on the played out legallity issue. Im not a lawyer so Ill spare you all the legal speech as if I sit here and study law in between bites of my xakzbys chicken sandwich. All I would tell you teacher is if it was illegal itd have been shut down long ago. no ones doin any of this underground secret ops, ea knows it, they get theirs.

Korin · 02-04-2006, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ariakas772005

Richard garret owned a 50 50 partnership in osi with the guy that made ultims 1-8 ( forgot his name but it was his brother) and left before ea bought stock in it. Its because he left that ea got thier mits in it. Doesnt anyone watch icons? and of course he got lots of money wouldnt you?

What pissed me off is that everquest got more credit for pioneering mmporpg than uo from g4. I guess cuz its the first 1st person 3d online game I dont know

Oh and my 2 cents on the played out legallity issue. Im not a lawyer so Ill spare you all the legal speech as if I sit here and study law in between bites of my xakzbys chicken sandwich. All I would tell you teacher is if it was illegal itd have been shut down long ago. no ones doin any of this underground secret ops, ea knows it, they get theirs.

UO often gets overlooked by the mainstream video game media. Really makes me mad seeing how the Early UO was the best MMO that I have ever played, even to this day.

SuperFriendBFG · 02-04-2006, 06:11 AM

Agreed, UO is horribly underrated. There are litterally NO MMORPGS out there that have the sheer number of features that UO has. UO has a very expansive world.

I wish they'd make a full 3d version, not like that crappy 3d client.

01-28-2006, 02:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
Anti-Basic Master of the Internet Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 12,927	I'm Doing This For School, No Seriously, I Am My Name's Matt And I'm From Lusiana (Thats Not A Misspelling Thats How We Say It) And I've Played UO For About A Year and a Half. I Decided to Make A Freeshard for A School Project, Which the Teacher Agreed to Since It Would Be a Way to Teach C# That Students Can Actually See Nice Results From (Before That We Were Doing Crappy Progs that Basically did nothing but math) However My Teacher Has some concerns B4 We Can start. They Are: 1) Is RunUO Legal? I Know when EA Bought out OSI there was a lot of bad Stuff Between them but did it make freeshards legal and if so can i have proof which i can present to my teacher. (IMHO EA Still Charging for A Game made in the 90s is Stupid But Teach won't do anything illegal) 2) Is There A Way to Run UO on a LAN without using the Internet At ALL? The School Board Restricts Our School's Bandwidth; And We Are Just Doing It to Experiment And Have Fun Afterschool So Don't Need Web 3) Whats the Best C# Editor To Use for RunUO Scripts. We Have Several C/C++ Editors, But None for C# And Since Our Town Has a Population of About 2000 (Including Cattle) Its Budget Is Limited So It Needs To Be Cheap Or Free Any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated Last edited by Anti-Basic; 08-13-2006 at 11:39 AM.

01-28-2006, 02:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
Viago Forum Expert Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maine, USA Age: 25 Posts: 2,703	you can download the UO client freely and legaly from EA's own FTP Runuo is legal, this has been said mannnnnnnny times you can connect throught lan, by using UOG just on uogateway's tool create local server listing, then put in that server's IP addy and port, and connect. you can use notepad, simplest editor, however, ive been using Dreamweaver MX 8 for years. Many other people use the one from microsoft. __________________ Does Sam Adam's Pee taste like Beer?

01-28-2006, 06:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
mark01970 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Salem, MA Age: 42 Posts: 47	On the subject of an editor, I found and have been using a really nice text editor. It is compact but has lots of features geared towards programming in as far as auto-tabbing, and it displays color formatting if you do things like html. I recommend everyone check it out at least for RunUO scripting. It is shareware, but worth registering. TextPad v4.7.3 __________________ Mark01970 aKa Spadanera The Unexpected Shard http://mysite.verizon.net/mark01970/TheUnexpectedShard

01-29-2006, 02:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
bzk90 Master of the Internet Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Nevada Age: 18 Posts: 6,630	@anti basic, from what i understand, richards father was an astronaught of something along that line. I know his family was attatched to nasa in some form of another. __________________ Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you. - Aldous Huxley In order to be effective truth must penetrate like an arrow - and that is likely to hurt. - Wei Wu Wei Let men gain wisdom - or buy a rope - Antisthenes

01-29-2006, 03:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Johabius Forum Expert Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kansas, USA Age: 38 Posts: 4,964	His father was indeed an astronaut. Owen K. Garriott was a former NASA astronaut who spent 60 days aboard Skylab in 1973 and 10 days aboard Spacelab-1 in 1983. __________________ In some cases stupid makes you win-Radwen

01-28-2006, 05:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
WarAngel Account Terminated Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 3,954	EditPlus is like TextPad, but a step up. ^_^

01-30-2006, 05:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
ASayre RunUO Developer/Demise Person Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: California Age: 20 Posts: 1,700	Anyways, back to the main subject: 1) RunUO is 100% legal. Just don't distribute UO or THEIR files. To get UO, Download it directly from EA at http://largedownloads.ea.com/pub/uo/uoml_setup.exe 2) Of course. RunUO doesn't require the internet. Just use Razor or UOGateway or whatever point to the internal IP, err... the IP of the computer within the lan. 3) http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualcsharp/ <- It's free for... forever as long as you download it before november. Visual Studio is the best out there, especailly in a learning environment. Easy access To information, ie, to facilitate teaching how to Code, not how to code in a certain language. (Intellisense) Anyways, It's good to see teachers opening up and atleast thinking of the possibility. A long long long long long time ago back when I was still in the normal school system, I had a teacher who was running a UO shard for fun on the school machines, even over the summer. But then some dullbob dumb-as-rock student went to buy UO from the store, and asked the stupid clerk at the store wether or not it's legal... Obviously the clerk didn't know answers from asparagus and said it wasn't, and said student told the teacher what the clerk said and then he decided to close it. But yea. End rant. __________________ Andre Sayre, Core Developer The RunUO Software Team The day we are born is the day Death inches ever closer... E-mail: ASayre ( AT ) RunUO ( Dot ) c o m I'm as graceful as a gazelle galloping over glistening green grass with it's head on fire.

01-30-2006, 06:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Macil Forum Novice Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Harper Woods, Michigan Age: 21 Posts: 815	I don't claim to know heads from tails with programming in any language, so don't anyone beat me up over my input, I just want to help, heh. I use Crimson Editor when I do anything in RunUO and it works great, maybe your teacher has heard of it?

02-04-2006, 01:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ariakas772005 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Age: 31 Posts: 56	Richard garret owned a 50 50 partnership in osi with the guy that made ultims 1-8 ( forgot his name but it was his brother) and left before ea bought stock in it. Its because he left that ea got thier mits in it. Doesnt anyone watch icons? and of course he got lots of money wouldnt you? What pissed me off is that everquest got more credit for pioneering mmporpg than uo from g4. I guess cuz its the first 1st person 3d online game I dont know Oh and my 2 cents on the played out legallity issue. Im not a lawyer so Ill spare you all the legal speech as if I sit here and study law in between bites of my xakzbys chicken sandwich. All I would tell you teacher is if it was illegal itd have been shut down long ago. no ones doin any of this underground secret ops, ea knows it, they get theirs. Last edited by Ariakas772005; 02-04-2006 at 01:34 AM.

02-04-2006, 06:11 AM	#13 (permalink)
SuperFriendBFG Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1	Agreed, UO is horribly underrated. There are litterally NO MMORPGS out there that have the sheer number of features that UO has. UO has a very expansive world. I wish they'd make a full 3d version, not like that crappy 3d client.

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