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Old 07-19-2004, 12:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Talking Guardian Choker

This is the frist script I made its a neckLess
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Old 07-19-2004, 03:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Gold Draco 13's Base Necklace Template isn't completed.
You didn't replace the "nn" with the values for your alteration
into the Guardian Choker.

Might want to fix that ...




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Just put what I wanted didnt want other stuf fon it, made this one long time ago :} lol
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You should give the necklace an actual class name instead of nn. Also you should clean up all of the commented out lines by deleting them. I'm all for people posting new scripts but I wish those templates would burn in hell with all the crud that gets posted as a result of them. Mods should make a new rule for people not to post template made items as anyone can make these items with the same templates.
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Old 07-19-2004, 01:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You should give the necklace an actual class name instead of nn. Also you should clean up all of the commented out lines by deleting them. I'm all for people posting new scripts but I wish those templates would burn in hell with all the crud that gets posted as a result of them. Mods should make a new rule for people not to post template made items as anyone can make these items with the same templates.
They do more good then bad, for what little I've seen posted I don't think you should knock what has been a popular kit for new scripters. With over 3500 downloaded, only about a dozen scripts have been posted from new scripters using temps.

Theres no reason to hate the Kit, just because people are using it and posting.

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Old 07-19-2004, 02:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I agree with Drako on this. You shouldnt make front of people because they use templates. Personally I think its down right rude, and maybe you should be reported for basically flaming this kids idea. Its not right in the least bit. Most people arent script gods like Drako

So basically ya dont like templated items, then dont download them
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:} Anywayus this script was made a while back just figured why not post, least one person will like it :}
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I agree with Drako on this. You shouldnt make front of people because they use templates. Personally I think its down right rude, and maybe you should be reported for basically flaming this kids idea. Its not right in the least bit. Most people arent script gods like Drako

So basically ya dont like templated items, then dont download them
He's not making fun of people who use templates. I use templates and I have had a shard for about a year now and beleive me I dont *need* templates.
Templates are just quicker ways of getting the same thing and they're actually pretty handy.

What cward IS saying is that _-anyone-_ can use templates, therefore you really shouldn't post scripts you made by using them because if anyone else wanted to make it and had about 5 minutes on their hands they could.

I agree with cward completely.

The Script Submissions forum is becoming a method of turning shards into clones of each other. People submit every last custom script they have, down to "Different Hued Moongate" scripts, and for whatever reason, other people download them and thus make their shards clones of other ones.

YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO SHARE EVERY SCRIPT YOU CREATE, NOR SHOULD YOU, NOR DO MOST PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE ONES YOU MADE IN UNDER 10 MINUTES!!

I would like to take this opportunity to say please stop submitting all your:
->Custom Arties
->Custom Weaps
->Custom Armor
->Custom Clothes
->Custom Monsters
->Custom Jewelry
->Quest Items which have no use to people without your quest

UNLESS there is something in them that actually took skill at scripting, you had to WORK to get it to do what you wanted, and you feel that few people could replicate it in any way short of copying and pasting your code.

Hopefully this cuts down on all these posts.

Sorry if I seemed mean or rude, but I am honestly tired of there being no end to these kinds of posts and frankly I am tired of being all nice about it.
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He's not making fun of people who use templates. I use templates and I have had a shard for about a year now and beleive me I dont *need* templates.
Templates are just quicker ways of getting the same thing and they're actually pretty handy.

What cward IS saying is that _-anyone-_ can use templates, therefore you really shouldn't post scripts you made by using them because if anyone else wanted to make it and had about 5 minutes on their hands they could.

I agree with cward completely.

The Script Submissions forum is becoming a method of turning shards into clones of each other. People submit every last custom script they have, down to "Different Hued Moongate" scripts, and for whatever reason, other people download them and thus make their shards clones of other ones.

YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO SHARE EVERY SCRIPT YOU CREATE, NOR SHOULD YOU, NOR DO MOST PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE ONES YOU MADE IN UNDER 10 MINUTES!!

I would like to take this opportunity to say please stop submitting all your:
->Custom Arties
->Custom Weaps
->Custom Armor
->Custom Clothes
->Custom Monsters
->Custom Jewelry
->Quest Items which have no use to people without your quest

UNLESS there is something in them that actually took skill at scripting, you had to WORK to get it to do what you wanted, and you feel that few people could replicate it in any way short of copying and pasting your code.

Hopefully this cuts down on all these posts.

Sorry if I seemed mean or rude, but I am honestly tired of there being no end to these kinds of posts and frankly I am tired of being all nice about it.
Well no one ever said you even have to be here to look at these script did they? If your worried about cloning shard then why are you here?
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asl if your so worried about this why dont you go make your own site where you submit scripts then you can controll all you want...
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You should give the necklace an actual class name instead of nn. Also you should clean up all of the commented out lines by deleting them. I'm all for people posting new scripts but I wish those templates would burn in hell with all the crud that gets posted as a result of them. Mods should make a new rule for people not to post template made items as anyone can make these items with the same templates.
There is nothing wrong with templates, and as a few others said, it makes things easier and quicker. I only made 3 scripts so far, and all 3 used a template of some sort. I usually find an in-game item that I want to modify, then use GD13's templates for the attributes and all. Though, with all 3 of the ones that I did, I do not recall seeing any others on here that were similar at all. Just a matter of what you do with them.
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Old 07-19-2004, 08:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What I am trying to say is not that this shouldnt be submitted, it is this script is not completed and does not work. I am not a novice scripter, I have never written my own script, the only thing I have successfully done is copy/paste. But, I downloaded this script because it sounded cool, and it goes into my shard without error or warnings, but when you try to make a "Guardian Choker" there isn't a "Guardian Choker" available.
I looked at the script and "Noticed" it was a template and that there was "nn's" where the name " Guardian Choker" should be, I think...maybe. Thats why I said you might want to fix that...especially since noobs like me dont know much about how to fix it. The only reason I even thought something should go there is because of the instructions Gold Draco 13 left about replacing those with the values.


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//Base Necklace Template....Made by Gold Draco 13.
//Just remove the // before the lines you want to allow on weapon.
//Replace the nn with your values.


This is where I think the problem is...If I'm wrong, please correct me so that I can get this to work or know in the future what is wrong so maybe I can fix and not have to ask alot of meanial questions.


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public class  nn : GoldNecklace
	{
		
		public override int ArtifactRarity{ get{ return 100; } }


		public nn() : base( 0x1085 ) 
		{
			Weight = 1.0; 
            		Name = "GuardianChoker"; 
            		Hue = 1175;
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public nn( Serial serial ) : base( serial )
		{
		}
Isn't this where the "nn" 's should be replaced with the name for the necklace?

This has nothing to do with the attributes you did or didnt want on the necklace, it has to do with the name...right?
Thanks.....
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Old 07-19-2004, 09:16 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Golly gee. Harsh crowd. Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things. Try this, I got no errors with it:
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using System;
using Server;

namespace Server.Items
{
    public class 
GuardianChoker GoldNecklace
    
{
        
        public 
override int ArtifactRarityget{ return 100; } }


        public 
GuardianChoker() : base0x1085 
        {
                   
Name "Guardian Choker"
                    
Hue 1175;

            
Attributes.AttackChance 15;
            
Attributes.CastRecovery 10;
            
Attributes.CastSpeed 10;
            
Attributes.DefendChance 5;
            
Attributes.EnhancePotions = -100;
            
Attributes.LowerManaCost 15;
            
Attributes.LowerRegCost 15;
            
Attributes.ReflectPhysical 25;
            
Attributes.RegenHits 5;
            
Attributes.RegenMana 5;
            
Attributes.RegenStam 5;
            
Attributes.SpellChanneling 1;
            
Attributes.SpellDamage 5;
            
Attributes.WeaponDamage 5;
            
Attributes.WeaponSpeed 5;

            
Resistances.Cold 10;
            
Resistances.Energy 10;
            
Resistances.Fire 10;
            
Resistances.Physical 10;
            
Resistances.Poison 10;

            
LootType LootType.Blessed//Blessed, Newbied or Cursed
        
}

        public 
GuardianChokerSerial serial ) : baseserial )
        {
        }

        public 
override void SerializeGenericWriter writer )
        {
            
base.Serializewriter );

            
writer.Write( (int) ); // version
        
}

        public 
override void DeserializeGenericReader reader )
        {
            
base.Deserializereader );

            
int version reader.ReadInt();
        }
    }

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I'm not complaining about the templates themselves. I am referring to all the crap scripts that do not work as a result of the templates being posted on the forums. You get new people downloading them, then asking how to fix the crap script in support. Mods have deleted several scripts as a result of these templates. Draco, props to you helping out the new guys, but they should at least test them and clean them up first.
IZjokersWild, people shouldn't have to fix a script they download from submissions. It should already be working. The only editing they should do is if they download an older script and need to convert it to 1.0.
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I agree with Drako on this. You shouldnt make front of people because they use templates. Personally I think its down right rude, and maybe you should be reported for basically flaming this kids idea. Its not right in the least bit. Most people arent script gods like Drako

So basically ya dont like templated items, then dont download them
I didn't flame anyone, take the time to actually read my post. The script is poorly done and incomplete. I gave him some advice and made a comment about template submitted scripts as I have seen many of these submitted that are incomplete and only wastes mods time of deleting. So if giving someone helpful scripting advice is flaming then the majority of people on these forums are condemned in your eyes.
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Okay, I agree in a sense to that. I do think that every script should be tested prior to posting, and if errors do occur, then think should go to script support first. As far as cleaning the script up, it is really not required, but it is generally a good idea. I have seen some buggy scripts out because of extra junk left in. It is great that people want to share their scripts and contribute and all, some seem to just jump the gun on them.
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I'm not complaining about the templates themselves. I am referring to all the crap scripts that do not work as a result of the templates being posted on the forums. You get new people downloading them, then asking how to fix the crap script in support. Mods have deleted several scripts as a result of these templates. Draco, props to you helping out the new guys, but they should at least test them and clean them up first.
IZjokersWild, people shouldn't have to fix a script they download from submissions. It should already be working. The only editing they should do is if they download an older script and need to convert it to 1.0.

I misunderstood, sorry...I do agree with you partly, the template I made were for teaching purposes and/or quick building of simple items and mobiles....I never intended on the temps being resummitted, I'll make sure in my next version of my kit to inform users to just post temps made by them on the same thread as the kit, this will keep them all in one area of the forums. If this isn't a good idea then I could also just host a section on my forums for them to post there temps.

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