Sort my IP once and 4 all - RunUO

crackass · 06-03-2003, 01:30 PM

in my house hold there are 3 computers, mine (B), my brothers (C) and my dads(A). we have an ADSL internet connection. all three computers are networked useing eithernet cards over a 10Megerbyte line. they all go through a net work hub. the ADSL going into my dads (A) and i am giong to be hosting on (B) mine. how do i find my IP for the shard. ive looked at all the posts and am still clue less, probbaly because i am stupid.

TombFate · 06-03-2003, 03:50 PM

You want to know the IP adress for your computer? You have to assign one threw network properties and then setup port forwarding on your router to point port 2593 to 2593 to your computer IP you have assigned. You will have to disable DHCP also.

Wolverana · 06-03-2003, 05:34 PM

Fire up the server it will give you your IP also

it's the one that isn't 127.0.0.1

**David** · 06-03-2003, 05:40 PM

For the public ip address which you will have to enter into the ServerList.cs file go to www.whatismyip.com -- for the private one open a Command Prompt and type ipconfig.

Your Dad's computer is a router. You will need to go into the Internet Connection Sharing config and forward port 2593 to your private ip address.

Thake a careful look at the Sticky's and FAQ's in this forum.

Quantos · 06-03-2003, 08:16 PM

If it's a hub you don't need to worry about port forwarding, only a router has issues with port forwarding.

**David** · 06-03-2003, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackass

... they all go through a net work hub. the ADSL going into my dads (A) and i am giong to be hosting on (B) mine....

Sounds like ICS to me...

Quantos · 06-03-2003, 10:54 PM

No, they dont need ICS on a hub, each machine would be automatically connected to the internet. Again, a hub doesnt make use of port forwarding. A router will, but a hub will not.

**David** · 06-03-2003, 11:57 PM

True, but only if the DSL account includes at least 3 vaild and static public ip addresses, the computers are set to use those addresses, and the DSL also connects to the hub. We know the last condition is not true and it is so unlikely the others are that I think we can safely assume the more common approach of Internet Connection Sharing--given that he states the ADSL connects to his Dad's computer. If not ICS, it will be some form of software router on his Dad's machine.

A hub by itself will not be enough to share a normal residential broadband connection. Either there are multiple ip's assigned which requires a higher level of technical expertise or something has to do NAT which requires a router.

Quantos · 06-04-2003, 12:09 AM

Exactly.

**David** · 06-04-2003, 12:19 AM

?? So you agree there is router? I understood you to say a hub alone would do it.

Quantos · 06-04-2003, 12:23 AM

That's exactly how it sounds, the hub is there with multiple ip's. It really doesn't sound like there is a router or ICS.
If you could check it for us go to start button>run>then type cmd and hit ok>type ipconfig then hit enter at the command prompt, then tell us what your IP address is.

**David** · 06-04-2003, 12:36 AM

...except for the bit about the ADSL connecting to his Dad's computer. But it is also agreed that the only (or best) way to know is to get the ip address. I'm just thinking multiple static ip's on a residental DSL service is way out of the norm. CA, if you can get that information we can help get you going...

Quantos · 06-04-2003, 12:49 AM

You'd be surprised how many highspeed carriers allow up to three IP's just for that purpose.

06-04-2003, 01:17 AM

Why not just use :
www.whatsmyipaddress.com
:>

Quantos · 06-04-2003, 01:25 AM

Because that won't tell him if he's behind a router or a hub.

06-04-2003, 01:39 AM

is he tryin to find his EXTERNAL IP? or his router ip?

Quantos · 06-04-2003, 01:41 AM

Neither Seven, it's something else that he's looking for.

crackass · 06-04-2003, 08:29 AM

whatismyIP.com donst work, it gives you an IP but because there is a hub and all that its the not the IP of the server. i am trying to get oher people from the internet to join my shard. i can give u a list of the IPS. the IPs given on the runUO server are not the IPs so hat othere people can join. i have iven a number of IPs to my friend and he is unable to connect.

the ADSL modem is a 515kbs connecton but connects at 570kbs the IPS is pipex. to share the internet i just ran the wizards in my network places. and it connects.

i know a fair deal about networks and compustas as i am an AVCE ict student and am familiar with my net work. but i am still unable to determin which IP it is which othere people must use in order to connect

to my shard! when i do ipconfig in command promt i get this

Windows IP configuration

Ethernet adapter local area connection:

Conection-specific DNS suffix. :mshome.net
IP adress. . . . . . . . .: 192.168.0.2
subnet mask. . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IP address. . . . . . . .: fe80::240:f4ff:fe4d:bcd6:4
default gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Tunnel adapter

(i have an exam now (crap look at the time!) ill tell you the rest later)
(if the IPs help hakers then i hope u have a good time gaining accses and looking at my porn

)[/quote]

Quantos · 06-04-2003, 11:36 AM

Ok, your dad's computer is definately running ICS (way to go David, thumbs up) and acting as a router. You will need to forward the port for the computer you want to use as a server through your dad's computer before anyone else can connect.

The IP addresses shown by RunUO on the console are your local addresses, only a machine on your home network can connect using one of those addresses.

To get your external IP address you will need to go to www.whatismyip.com or any of the other ones like Seven mentioned.

<edit>Unless the hub you mention in your first post is really a router, then there is no ICS and you need to forward the port through it</edit>

06-04-2003, 12:59 PM

Hey its me seven at school :> last day using comps so if i get banned all well....oh...ahh...i see...you should be able to go to like http://###.###.## or whatever i dont remember the correctr address for it..then you go to advance then forwarding then you make a forwarding for the runuo server..

crackass · 06-04-2003, 01:39 PM

thanx you all 4 helping much apreciated but now! how do i forward the port then?

06-04-2003, 02:33 PM

Yes you need to forward your port...or it will stop right at your router...the website is like http://182.somthing.somthing or like that i think....if anyone has the address post it...cuz right now im at school and not at my home comp :<

But its very simple and easy :>

06-04-2003, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

A hub by itself will not be enough to share a normal residential broadband connection. Either there are multiple ip's assigned which requires a higher level of technical expertise or something has to do NAT which requires a router.

Are you smoking searous crack?!?

A hub by itself WILL be enough to share a normal residentail broadband connection. I have the EXACT same SETUP as this guy and I DON'T have to do any of that stupid 'port forwarding' that you 'router lovers' have to do.

It's very simple:

Plug the (non filtered) telephone line into the External Alcatel Highspeed DSL PPPoE modem then run the Cat5 RJ45 cable from the modem to the uplink port on the hub/switch. Connect all of the other computers to the other ports in the hub/switch. Install the PPPoE sofware (or not if you are running XP) and setup each computer as if it was connected driectly to the Alcatel. Easy....

Oh and just incase you figured that this won't work with anything BUT a PPPoE connection I sucessfully setup a similar connection with a "on all the time' Cable highspeed Connection where there was no PPPoE connection....

Quantos · 06-04-2003, 03:43 PM

As far as forwarding the port the goes, you need to get into the router setup page. Open your web browser and direct it to 192.168.1.1, that should be the router itself by default. The password should be admin, again that is by default on most routers. One of the tabs on the site you are at will have forwarding on it, you may need to select an advanced option to get to it. Then simply forward the port using tcp as RunUO doesn't make use of udp to the internal address of the machine running the software. Apply the changes and you are done.

crackass · 06-04-2003, 04:25 PM

Right 1st i failed my accounts good job im not doing that any more

2nd

Quote:

Plug the (non filtered) telephone line into the External Alcatel Highspeed DSL PPPoE modem then run the Cat5 RJ45 cable from the modem to the uplink port on the hub/switch. Connect all of the other computers to the other ports in the hub/switch. Install the PPPoE sofware (or not if you are running XP) and setup each computer as if it was connected driectly to the Alcatel. Easy....

its USB it wont go into the hub.

3rd the IP of the router 192.168.1.1 on my computer it opens a chat page on my dads its msn search thsi couldnt be found :/ and thnax wbut what is my IP is poo! i had a look at my network places > pipex ADSL > settings . here i could set up something that looked like a fowardingthing but i am still lost. this would also allow me to host CS games. if it works

06-03-2003, 01:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
crackass Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 30	Sort my IP once and 4 all in my house hold there are 3 computers, mine (B), my brothers (C) and my dads(A). we have an ADSL internet connection. all three computers are networked useing eithernet cards over a 10Megerbyte line. they all go through a net work hub. the ADSL going into my dads (A) and i am giong to be hosting on (B) mine. how do i find my IP for the shard. ive looked at all the posts and am still clue less, probbaly because i am stupid.

06-03-2003, 03:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
TombFate Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 96	... You want to know the IP adress for your computer? You have to assign one threw network properties and then setup port forwarding on your router to point port 2593 to 2593 to your computer IP you have assigned. You will have to disable DHCP also. __________________ TombFate Helms Deep

06-03-2003, 05:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
David Moderate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,598	For the public ip address which you will have to enter into the ServerList.cs file go to www.whatismyip.com -- for the private one open a Command Prompt and type ipconfig. Your Dad's computer is a router. You will need to go into the Internet Connection Sharing config and forward port 2593 to your private ip address. Thake a careful look at the Sticky's and FAQ's in this forum. __________________ David Forum Moderator The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Forum Rules and Guidelines RunUO Forum Search Engine Download RunUO 2.0 RC2

06-03-2003, 08:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	If it's a hub you don't need to worry about port forwarding, only a router has issues with port forwarding. __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

06-03-2003, 10:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	No, they dont need ICS on a hub, each machine would be automatically connected to the internet. Again, a hub doesnt make use of port forwarding. A router will, but a hub will not. __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

06-03-2003, 05:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Wolverana Forum Expert Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 895	Fire up the server it will give you your IP also it's the one that isn't 127.0.0.1

06-03-2003, 11:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
David Moderate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,598	True, but only if the DSL account includes at least 3 vaild and static public ip addresses, the computers are set to use those addresses, and the DSL also connects to the hub. We know the last condition is not true and it is so unlikely the others are that I think we can safely assume the more common approach of Internet Connection Sharing--given that he states the ADSL connects to his Dad's computer. If not ICS, it will be some form of software router on his Dad's machine. A hub by itself will not be enough to share a normal residential broadband connection. Either there are multiple ip's assigned which requires a higher level of technical expertise or something has to do NAT which requires a router. __________________ David Forum Moderator The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Forum Rules and Guidelines RunUO Forum Search Engine Download RunUO 2.0 RC2

06-04-2003, 12:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	Exactly. __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

06-04-2003, 12:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
David Moderate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,598	?? So you agree there is router? I understood you to say a hub alone would do it. __________________ David Forum Moderator The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Forum Rules and Guidelines RunUO Forum Search Engine Download RunUO 2.0 RC2

06-04-2003, 12:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	That's exactly how it sounds, the hub is there with multiple ip's. It really doesn't sound like there is a router or ICS. If you could check it for us go to start button>run>then type cmd and hit ok>type ipconfig then hit enter at the command prompt, then tell us what your IP address is. __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

06-04-2003, 12:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
David Moderate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,598	...except for the bit about the ADSL connecting to his Dad's computer. But it is also agreed that the only (or best) way to know is to get the ip address. I'm just thinking multiple static ip's on a residental DSL service is way out of the norm. CA, if you can get that information we can help get you going... __________________ David Forum Moderator The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Forum Rules and Guidelines RunUO Forum Search Engine Download RunUO 2.0 RC2

06-04-2003, 12:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	You'd be surprised how many highspeed carriers allow up to three IP's just for that purpose. __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

06-04-2003, 01:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
Seven Guest Posts: n/a	Why not just use : www.whatsmyipaddress.com :>

06-04-2003, 01:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	Because that won't tell him if he's behind a router or a hub. __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

06-04-2003, 01:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
Seven Guest Posts: n/a	is he tryin to find his EXTERNAL IP? or his router ip?

06-04-2003, 01:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	Neither Seven, it's something else that he's looking for. __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

06-04-2003, 08:29 AM	#18 (permalink)
crackass Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 30	whatismyIP.com donst work, it gives you an IP but because there is a hub and all that its the not the IP of the server. i am trying to get oher people from the internet to join my shard. i can give u a list of the IPS. the IPs given on the runUO server are not the IPs so hat othere people can join. i have iven a number of IPs to my friend and he is unable to connect. the ADSL modem is a 515kbs connecton but connects at 570kbs the IPS is pipex. to share the internet i just ran the wizards in my network places. and it connects. i know a fair deal about networks and compustas as i am an AVCE ict student and am familiar with my net work. but i am still unable to determin which IP it is which othere people must use in order to connect to my shard! when i do ipconfig in command promt i get this Windows IP configuration Ethernet adapter local area connection: Conection-specific DNS suffix. :mshome.net IP adress. . . . . . . . .: 192.168.0.2 subnet mask. . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 IP address. . . . . . . .: fe80::240:f4ff:fe4d:bcd6:4 default gateway. . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Tunnel adapter (i have an exam now (crap look at the time!) ill tell you the rest later) (if the IPs help hakers then i hope u have a good time gaining accses and looking at my porn )[/quote]

06-04-2003, 11:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	Ok, your dad's computer is definately running ICS (way to go David, thumbs up) and acting as a router. You will need to forward the port for the computer you want to use as a server through your dad's computer before anyone else can connect. The IP addresses shown by RunUO on the console are your local addresses, only a machine on your home network can connect using one of those addresses. To get your external IP address you will need to go to www.whatismyip.com or any of the other ones like Seven mentioned. <edit>Unless the hub you mention in your first post is really a router, then there is no ICS and you need to forward the port through it</edit> __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

06-04-2003, 12:59 PM	#20 (permalink)
Seven Guest Posts: n/a	Hey its me seven at school :> last day using comps so if i get banned all well....oh...ahh...i see...you should be able to go to like http://###.###.## or whatever i dont remember the correctr address for it..then you go to advance then forwarding then you make a forwarding for the runuo server..

06-04-2003, 01:39 PM	#21 (permalink)
crackass Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 30	thanx you all 4 helping much apreciated but now! how do i forward the port then?

06-04-2003, 02:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
Seven Guest Posts: n/a	Yes you need to forward your port...or it will stop right at your router...the website is like http://182.somthing.somthing or like that i think....if anyone has the address post it...cuz right now im at school and not at my home comp :< But its very simple and easy :>

06-04-2003, 03:43 PM	#24 (permalink)
Quantos Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 41 Posts: 6,867	As far as forwarding the port the goes, you need to get into the router setup page. Open your web browser and direct it to 192.168.1.1, that should be the router itself by default. The password should be admin, again that is by default on most routers. One of the tabs on the site you are at will have forwarding on it, you may need to select an advanced option to get to it. Then simply forward the port using tcp as RunUO doesn't make use of udp to the internal address of the machine running the software. Apply the changes and you are done. __________________ Paranoia is what happens when you finally have all of the facts.

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