Looking for advice: Reducing CPU Utilization (Beta33) - RunUO

Cyberspud · 07-09-2003, 12:04 AM

I am looking for a little friendly advice on reducing CPU usage...

I upgraded my shard to Beta33 and my processor utilization has gone from an average of 3% (with Beta32) to a constant 95% with Beta33 as well as using almost 100 more MB of RAM. The lag is very annoying (like every 3 steps, a few seconds of lag, 3 steps, a few seconds of lag, wash rinse repeat...).

I poked around the forums and tried a few things (like making sure the NPC "idle" mode was enabled) and it hasn't helped. I did disable the new pathfinding and that did bring the utilization down a tad, but not enough.

I am figuring I didn't update something correctly, but I just wanted to check with the experts first. For now, I reverted back to Beta32 (ahh, backups are good).

Thank you very much for your time. It is appreicated (honestly).

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yoyu007 · 07-09-2003, 07:08 AM

the xp server paches
or for the win9x?

Static Loader · 07-09-2003, 12:11 PM

Make sure your playersensitive is true. I know when you upgrade the shards will by default load everything and cause your usage to skyrocket. I turn on sectors so it uses only whats needed.

Try basecreature.cs and look for PlayerSensitive

make it true and see what you get.

Cyberspud · 07-09-2003, 12:52 PM

Thanks for the replies :P

Yoyu007, I'm running it on a fully patched Windows Server 2003 (Web Edition) ... which I kind of doubt is the problem as nothing changed OS-wise between b32 and b33.

I *thought* I checked that, Static Loader, but I will definitely double check it when I get home tonight. That is surely what it seems like...like all of a sudden all the NPC's are being processed. I'll let you know either way. Like I said, I am sure it is user error...

Again, thanks for the replies...the help is much appreciated!

Cyberspud · 07-09-2003, 10:21 PM

ops: Sigh

ops:

I must have overwritten my custom BaseCreature with the default one ... the PlayerRange setting was indeed set to false.

Made that change and everything is just as it should be.

Like I said ... user error.

Thank you very much, Static Loader, for the help.

*Sulks in the corner*

Phantom · 07-09-2003, 10:44 PM

Cyber you need/want a C# community :-)

* I need good people to help the new guys * :-)

Your past experience is invaluable :-)

Might expand it :-)

07-10-2003, 06:29 AM

Hmm.. what does the disable new pathfinding and enabling the npc idle thingy do?

Does it increase the server performance? cause eversince I upgraded to beta33 its bringing my dual p3 server to a crawl...

I tried doing a search thru the forums and can't seem to find any info...

Cyberspud · 07-10-2003, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom

Cyber you need/want a C# community :-)

* I need good people to help the new guys * :-)

Your past experience is invaluable :-)

Might expand it :-)

Heh, Phantom, I'm not sure if that is a compliment, or if you are busting on my newbieness.

I am really starting to dig this community ... to be honest, I never thought I would find the same kind of camaraderie over here that I felt on UOXC, but I am constantly blown away at the help I receive (and I need alot). Kudos to all you guys for making these forums an enjoyable place to visit (even if I am doing it at work :twisted: ).

Shinji, if you do what Static Loader describes above, it puts the NPC's in "idle" mode ... basically, the only NPC's that are "processed" are the ones that are around the player. This really helps cut down on lag...this is how most emus do it (I think). As for turning off the pathfinding, I re-enabled it because after the Idle thing, I was back down to 3% CPU.

Phantom · 07-10-2003, 02:32 PM

Cyber little of both

Your new to C# but your past experience will make you useful :-) Hell you might learn a thing or two :-)

I just need good programers :-) to hang around.

07-11-2003, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberspud

Heh, Phantom, I'm not sure if that is a compliment, or if you are busting on my newbieness.

I am really starting to dig this community ... to be honest, I never thought I would find the same kind of camaraderie over here that I felt on UOXC, but I am constantly blown away at the help I receive (and I need alot). Kudos to all you guys for making these forums an enjoyable place to visit (even if I am doing it at work :twisted: ).

Shinji, if you do what Static Loader describes above, it puts the NPC's in "idle" mode ... basically, the only NPC's that are "processed" are the ones that are around the player. This really helps cut down on lag...this is how most emus do it (I think). As for turning off the pathfinding, I re-enabled it because after the Idle thing, I was back down to 3% CPU.

Cyberspud don't mind telling me which files and lines to edit to disable path finding?

Thanks in advance.

Cyberspud · 07-11-2003, 08:15 PM

Open up your \RunUO\Scripts\Engines\Pathing\PathFollower.cs and look right near the top ... you should see this line:
[code:1]
private static bool Enabled = true;
[/code:1]
Change it to this:
[code:1]
private static bool Enabled = false;
[/code:1]
I believe this will disable the pathfinding.

...

To be honest, I wouldn't suggest it. This new pathfinding is great. :!:

Static Loader · 07-11-2003, 09:57 PM

btw cyber, me = sherkborg from uoxc.

07-12-2003, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberspud

Open up your \RunUO\Scripts\Engines\Pathing\PathFollower.cs and look right near the top ... you should see this line:
[code:1]
private static bool Enabled = true;
[/code:1]
Change it to this:
[code:1]
private static bool Enabled = false;
[/code:1]
I believe this will disable the pathfinding.

...

To be honest, I wouldn't suggest it. This new pathfinding is great. :!:

Hmm, but does disabling the pathfinding help significantly in increasing the system performance?

bean56 · 07-20-2003, 10:10 PM

[code:1]public virtual bool PlayerRangeSensitive{ get{ return false; } }

public override void OnSectorDeactivate()
{
if ( PlayerRangeSensitive && m_AI != null )
m_AI.Deactivate();
[/code:1]
is that what u are talkign about making to true cause mines been on false and ive been fine although i do have a p4 2.4ghz 512 ddr, and just starting server so not really any players.

07-21-2003, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bean56

[code:1]public virtual bool PlayerRangeSensitive{ get{ return false; } }

public override void OnSectorDeactivate()
{
if ( PlayerRangeSensitive && m_AI != null )
m_AI.Deactivate();
[/code:1]
is that what u are talkign about making to true cause mines been on false and ive been fine although i do have a p4 2.4ghz 512 ddr, and just starting server so not really any players.

Set it to true and see the performance difference!

Oh and leave pathfinding ON as it doesn't effect server CPU usage THAT much but it is an excellent 'anti player cheet' !

habitat85 · 07-21-2003, 08:52 AM

What does the PlayerRangeSensitive do?
And if it makes performance better why is default set to false? :?
Just curious because im on a 4-5 year old machine and it takes a beating sometimes and anything that will help performance IM INTERESTED

Had 5 people on my server today and im running the server and client on the same pc and it got a little laggy on us sometimes, and after about a hour or 2 RunUO crashed after spawning and beating on a few doom boss's

Im on a 650mhz with 128 SDRAM :evil: :shock:

*Is dying for a new PC*

**psz** · 07-21-2003, 08:55 AM

IT makes it so that NPCs "stop" if no players are around, thus reducing CPU and RAM usage.

The reason it's not set by default is that it has it's own problems.

Example:

You go to Destard. You fight an Ancient Wyrm. The AW follows you to the entrance, but you run and leave. With PlayerSensitivity set, when you come back to Destard a WEEK later (assuming no one else has), the AW will STILL be by the entrace. With it set to the default, the AW would walk back to where it was.

habitat85 · 07-21-2003, 08:58 AM

ahh ok I see, but what if the spawner range you run the AW off of is set to 1 for example, it wont go back to the 1 tile radius from the spawner with the sensitive turned to true?

**psz** · 07-21-2003, 09:01 AM

It will attempt to walk back to the spawner. You can test this in Green Acres.

Create a spawner with homerange 1.

Teleport the creature to someplace just outside of the homerange.

It'll walk back (usually)

CraZy_NooB · 07-22-2003, 05:52 PM

lol...it will attempt to get that far...but with it set to false once the player is out of range it will stop moving...so if you were to test this you should tele it away and then tele away urself, then come back later and see where it is...

btw i can't figure out this quote thing all my quotes look like this...

Quote:

har

and everyone elses has posters name...etc!!!

*is confused*
...
or just stupid

[/quote]

habitat85 · 07-22-2003, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraZy_NooB

btw i can't figure out this quote thing all my quotes look like this...

Quote:

har

and everyone elses has posters name...etc!!!

*is confused*
...
or just stupid

When you click the quote button on someones post it will default the users name in it

(quote="CraZy_NooB")*is confused*(/quote)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraZy_NooB

*is confused*

CraZy_NooB · 07-22-2003, 06:50 PM

har i see thats cool =)

wonder who came up with it

lol[/quote]

habitat85 · 07-22-2003, 07:14 PM

lol...

Vampster · 07-23-2003, 08:25 PM

I tried setting the playerRange setting to true and re-running the server, but i see no improvement. My cpu usage is stll at 100%. I tried walking away from all NPC and no change.

Ali Baba · 08-26-2003, 02:38 PM

DO you guys play the 3d client at the same time??

so runuo in the background and at the same time play UO in the foreground??

07-09-2003, 12:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cyberspud I won?!? Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 164	Looking for advice: Reducing CPU Utilization (Beta33) I am looking for a little friendly advice on reducing CPU usage... I upgraded my shard to Beta33 and my processor utilization has gone from an average of 3% (with Beta32) to a constant 95% with Beta33 as well as using almost 100 more MB of RAM. The lag is very annoying (like every 3 steps, a few seconds of lag, 3 steps, a few seconds of lag, wash rinse repeat...). I poked around the forums and tried a few things (like making sure the NPC "idle" mode was enabled) and it hasn't helped. I did disable the new pathfinding and that did bring the utilization down a tad, but not enough. I am figuring I didn't update something correctly, but I just wanted to check with the experts first. For now, I reverted back to Beta32 (ahh, backups are good). Thank you very much for your time. It is appreicated (honestly). 8) __________________ Cyberspud "You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to." New Sosaria: The Second Coming RunUOXBox

07-09-2003, 07:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
yoyu007 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 30 Posts: 29	can you tell me which pachts do u use? the xp server paches or for the win9x?

07-09-2003, 12:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cyberspud I won?!? Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 164	Thanks for the replies :P Yoyu007, I'm running it on a fully patched Windows Server 2003 (Web Edition) ... which I kind of doubt is the problem as nothing changed OS-wise between b32 and b33. I thought I checked that, Static Loader, but I will definitely double check it when I get home tonight. That is surely what it seems like...like all of a sudden all the NPC's are being processed. I'll let you know either way. Like I said, I am sure it is user error... Again, thanks for the replies...the help is much appreciated! __________________ Cyberspud "You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to." New Sosaria: The Second Coming RunUOXBox

07-09-2003, 10:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cyberspud I won?!? Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 164	ops: Sigh ops: I must have overwritten my custom BaseCreature with the default one ... the PlayerRange setting was indeed set to false. Made that change and everything is just as it should be. Like I said ... user error. Thank you very much, Static Loader, for the help. Sulks in the corner __________________ Cyberspud "You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to." New Sosaria: The Second Coming RunUOXBox

07-11-2003, 08:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cyberspud I won?!? Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Age: 32 Posts: 164	Open up your \RunUO\Scripts\Engines\Pathing\PathFollower.cs and look right near the top ... you should see this line: [code:1] private static bool Enabled = true; [/code:1] Change it to this: [code:1] private static bool Enabled = false; [/code:1] I believe this will disable the pathfinding. ... To be honest, I wouldn't suggest it. This new pathfinding is great. :!: __________________ Cyberspud "You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to." New Sosaria: The Second Coming RunUOXBox

07-09-2003, 12:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Static Loader Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 630	Make sure your playersensitive is true. I know when you upgrade the shards will by default load everything and cause your usage to skyrocket. I turn on sectors so it uses only whats needed. Try basecreature.cs and look for PlayerSensitive make it true and see what you get.

07-09-2003, 10:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Phantom Account Terminated Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 26 Posts: 3,846	Cyber you need/want a C# community :-) * I need good people to help the new guys * :-) Your past experience is invaluable :-) Might expand it :-)

07-10-2003, 06:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Lost User Guest Posts: n/a	Hmm.. what does the disable new pathfinding and enabling the npc idle thingy do? Does it increase the server performance? cause eversince I upgraded to beta33 its bringing my dual p3 server to a crawl... I tried doing a search thru the forums and can't seem to find any info...

07-10-2003, 02:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Phantom Account Terminated Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 26 Posts: 3,846	Cyber little of both Your new to C# but your past experience will make you useful :-) Hell you might learn a thing or two :-) I just need good programers :-) to hang around.

07-11-2003, 09:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
Static Loader Forum Expert Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 630	btw cyber, me = sherkborg from uoxc.

07-20-2003, 10:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
bean56 Forum Expert Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: around Posts: 1,376	[code:1]public virtual bool PlayerRangeSensitive{ get{ return false; } } public override void OnSectorDeactivate() { if ( PlayerRangeSensitive && m_AI != null ) m_AI.Deactivate(); [/code:1] is that what u are talkign about making to true cause mines been on false and ive been fine although i do have a p4 2.4ghz 512 ddr, and just starting server so not really any players.

07-21-2003, 08:52 AM	#16 (permalink)
habitat85 Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 30 Posts: 515	What does the PlayerRangeSensitive do? And if it makes performance better why is default set to false? :? Just curious because im on a 4-5 year old machine and it takes a beating sometimes and anything that will help performance IM INTERESTED Had 5 people on my server today and im running the server and client on the same pc and it got a little laggy on us sometimes, and after about a hour or 2 RunUO crashed after spawning and beating on a few doom boss's Im on a 650mhz with 128 SDRAM :evil: :shock: Is dying for a new PC

07-21-2003, 08:55 AM	#17 (permalink)
psz UO Gamers: Demise Administrator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Swamp Age: 29 Posts: 10,819	IT makes it so that NPCs "stop" if no players are around, thus reducing CPU and RAM usage. The reason it's not set by default is that it has it's own problems. Example: You go to Destard. You fight an Ancient Wyrm. The AW follows you to the entrance, but you run and leave. With PlayerSensitivity set, when you come back to Destard a WEEK later (assuming no one else has), the AW will STILL be by the entrace. With it set to the default, the AW would walk back to where it was. __________________ psz Demise' Creator (Retired) The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Former Official RunUO Scripter (Retired) Websites: My 360 Blog My Gaming Site(Old Link) My Gaming Site(New Link)

07-21-2003, 08:58 AM	#18 (permalink)
habitat85 Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 30 Posts: 515	ahh ok I see, but what if the spawner range you run the AW off of is set to 1 for example, it wont go back to the 1 tile radius from the spawner with the sensitive turned to true?

07-21-2003, 09:01 AM	#19 (permalink)
psz UO Gamers: Demise Administrator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Swamp Age: 29 Posts: 10,819	It will attempt to walk back to the spawner. You can test this in Green Acres. Create a spawner with homerange 1. Teleport the creature to someplace just outside of the homerange. It'll walk back (usually) __________________ psz Demise' Creator (Retired) The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Former Official RunUO Scripter (Retired) Websites: My 360 Blog My Gaming Site(Old Link) My Gaming Site(New Link)

07-22-2003, 06:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
CraZy_NooB Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 463	har i see thats cool =) wonder who came up with it lol[/quote]

07-22-2003, 07:14 PM	#23 (permalink)
habitat85 Forum Expert Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 30 Posts: 515	lol...

07-23-2003, 08:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
Vampster Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3	I tried setting the playerRange setting to true and re-running the server, but i see no improvement. My cpu usage is stll at 100%. I tried walking away from all NPC and no change.

08-26-2003, 02:38 PM	#25 (permalink)
Ali Baba Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 255	DO you guys play the 3d client at the same time?? so runuo in the background and at the same time play UO in the foreground??

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