Server/Connection Issues

[KooKie MoNsTeR]

I want to start a new private server for myself. I've never done this before and I need some help. I just downloaded RunUO 2.0 RC1 and .Net Framework 2.0.50727. I followed this but I get stuck on the "Verifying Account" stage when I try to log in. In the RunUO black box thingy it reads:

Connected. [1 Online]
Encrypted client detected, disconnecting
Disconnected. [0 Online]

And I've been using UOGateway for this. I just tried ConnectUO and I couldn't even get past the "Connecting..." stage. It doesn't tell me "encrypted client detected, disconnecting" either. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.

I'm not trying to enter my server into the server database so others can connect to it, I just want a local server that only I can use. How can I connect to it?

Also, I'm using Windows on a laptop through a router. Should I be using the desktop computer instead?

[Lord_Greywolf]

are you patched to 5.0.65 or higher - if you are - then can not connect through UOG - period - need to re install UO and only patch to 5.0.6e

not sure on the connect UO part

is the server on the desktop? or on the laptop?
if it is on the lap top - make sure you are on the same "newtork" - same network name, etc - use the "setting up a home network option" in the connect part of IExplorer tools tab
can manyly config it in the uo config file (been a while since i did that) but basicaly put in the desktops local ip - probaly like 198.162.1.100 or something simular - and as long as you are both on the same "network" should connect (if the network names are different, etc then it is a wan and not the same network)

you can also try razor also for connecting - but many are having problems with it also

[Malaperth]

What exactly are the problems that people are having currently with ConnectUO and Razor? I've spoken to Jeff and Zippy, and both work fine for them (and most other people apparently) as long as the directions are followed.

I know they would be fine with fixing any problems if the problems can be identified.

[Lord_Greywolf]

there are many connection issues

if using UOG at all - can not connect with razor at all - even if an older client that does not use the new encryption is being used (i,e, 5.0.6e and earlier - 5.0.65 and higher had the new encryption)
can not connect to 127.0.0.1 for most razor users
there thread is filled with errors that get moved on down from new errors coming in and zippy just basicaly says - do it this way instead or ignors the threads, and they just get buried

as for connect UO i have read about scattered things on it - not any specifiecs that i remember - some can not connect, do not see patches, etc
except for 1 - can only have 1 patch - and that can causes problems when a big one, and people on slower connections get "hick ups" and the patch is lost and has to start again, etc - many smaller patches are better (helps the shard owner also - instead of thier players needing to download a big patch for ewach change - just need the changed smaller one is much better)

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Lord_Greywolf

there are many connection issues

if using UOG at all - can not connect with razor at all - even if an older client that does not use the new encryption is being used (i,e, 5.0.6e and earlier - 5.0.65 and higher had the new encryption)
can not connect to 127.0.0.1 for most razor users
there thread is filled with errors that get moved on down from new errors coming in and zippy just basicaly says - do it this way instead or ignors the threads, and they just get buried

as for connect UO i have read about scattered things on it - not any specifiecs that i remember - some can not connect, do not see patches, etc
except for 1 - can only have 1 patch - and that can causes problems when a big one, and people on slower connections get "hick ups" and the patch is lost and has to start again, etc - many smaller patches are better (helps the shard owner also - instead of thier players needing to download a big patch for ewach change - just need the changed smaller one is much better)

UOG + Razor doesnt work cause UOG doesnt work wth the new client.

Razor by itself works fine
CUO by itself works fine
CUO + Razor works fine

CUO's patching issues are being worked on bigtime, and in a big way, with some cool new stuff that will change the way patching works.

Zippy only ignores ignorant assholes that dont supply info he's requested to fix the problem, and I cant say i blame him.

Any other issues I can resolve for you?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Lord_Greywolf

there are many connection issues
if using UOG at all - can not connect with razor at all - even if an older client that does not use the new encryption is being used (i,e, 5.0.6e and earlier - 5.0.65 and higher had the new encryption)

As I've said, UOGateway is dead. There is no point trying to support it when no new updates will be made for it and it does not support new versions of the client.

can not connect to 127.0.0.1 for most razor users

I have heard only spotty reports of this, and I can say that it does work for me. Point me to a thread on the recent version that says otherwise.

there thread is filled with errors that get moved on down from new errors coming in and zippy just basicaly says - do it this way instead or ignors the threads, and they just get buried

I read every thread that comes up on the Razor forums. Most people have done something wrong or just reinstalling fixes their problems. I will happily fix any problems which are reported, but I have yet to have anyone explain to me how they fixed this type of problem. But the fact that people usually fix these problems by themselves tells me that the problem isn't Razor. As they say "PLBKAC." Perhaps if some of these people could explain what they have done wrong something (interface changes or help threads) could be done to make this problem less common.

as for connect UO i have read about scattered things on it - not any specifiecs that i remember - some can not connect, do not see patches, etc
except for 1 - can only have 1 patch - and that can causes problems when a big one, and people on slower connections get "hick ups" and the patch is lost and has to start again, etc - many smaller patches are better (helps the shard owner also - instead of thier players needing to download a big patch for ewach change - just need the changed smaller one is much better)

ConnectUO is Beta, so it is expected to have problems.


Anyways, you seem to be really negative and I don't really appreciate that. Why don't you try and correct your attitude or do something to help people instead of jsut complaining about things all the time.

[Bujinsho]

I've got major probs with connections atm ... and I've tried just about everything (except obviously the one thing I need to do )

As for ConnectUO .. the only issue I had with it is it won't connect if you run the client and the server on the same machine....apart from that it seems fine (or at least from my viewpoint , no worse than any other method of connection I've tried - I get the same @@**$%^^ symptoms no matter what I use)

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Bujinsho

I've got major probs with connections atm ... and I've tried just about everything (except obviously the one thing I need to do )

As for ConnectUO .. the only issue I had with it is it won't connect if you run the client and the server on the same machine....apart from that it seems fine (or at least from my viewpoint , no worse than any other method of connection I've tried - I get the same @@**$%^^ symptoms no matter what I use)

Then ur not setting something up correctly, I can connect with CUO on my machine with the server running on it, so can Zippy, so can the other 10-20 ppl I had test it before we updated it.

But then again, we got tons of ppl that just say it doesnt work, without explaining in detail whats happening, or if it gives errors, how they set it up, how there computer is setup, etc. ppl tend to just think oh it doesnt work for me, i couldnt figure it out, it must be broken and then they move on. They dont try to help us get it fix or even ask for help and whatnot. So as far as Im concerned it works on 100% of the machines and never messes up, and in the cases it does, its a user problem.

[Lord_Greywolf]

well - i do not use the new client - i use 5.0.6e - and i can not use UOG and razor - but i can use UOG - so there fore it is razor not working with it

and i have given zippy plenty of info on the threads i have started with problems, and in which he has not answered on, dealing with other problems
back with 1.0.2, & 1.0.3 versions - and in whcih those still have not been fixed in 1.0.6 - just ignored -- probaly because it would take to much to fix them
and there are many many threads up there dealing with connecting to same computer and having problems - and zippy even has said himself - razor will not connect to 127.0.0.1 - try a different address then to use

but i have players that can connect to my shard with UOG, but can not with connect uo, do not know what the problem is - but they just "hang" at the start up screen, so they repatch and go back to using UOG -- they may not have posted the problems on the connect uo forums - because they got UOG to work instead

but this is not the place top be discussing this stuff - this is not the thread for it - this is someone elses thread, and we should not be hijacking it

so i apologize to KooKie MoNsTeR for putting in stuff which does not belong here

[Bujinsho]

*grins*

Clearly this is the case ... but I admit I only tried it once before moving the shard to a different machine (and my nerves were frazzled at the time anyway )... my main issue is the problem I have with internet clients connecting at certain times of day .. and I'm pretty well convinced that it has nothing to do with ConnectUO, UOGateway, or Razor anyway

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Lord_Greywolf

well - i do not use the new client - i use 5.0.6e - and i can not use UOG and razor - but i can use UOG - so there fore it is razor not working with it

(Repeating what I said before) UOGateway is outdated. It is no longer updated. Its creator has abandoned you. There is nothing anyone can do (except the creator) to fix it's problems. The ONLY solution is to move on to another piece of software. You WILL be FORCED to do this eventually. Just do it now and save us all the trouble.

and i have given zippy plenty of info on the threads i have started with problems, and in which he has not answered on,

I don't really know what you're talking about. You can plainly see that I am Zippy. I'm here responding to this thread. Most of the threads which I have not responded to are ones which I believe are impossible to understand what the problem is, or have been addressed before in other threads. Or that just about any other user should be able to help with. I can't spend all of my time reading forums and helping people fix their macros.

dealing with other problems back with 1.0.2, & 1.0.3 versions - and in which those still have not been fixed in 1.0.6 - just ignored -- probably because it would take to much to fix them

Every release I attempt to fix all known bugs. If you know of a bug which exists in the most recent version, you should post it. As of right now I know of no Razor bugs in existence. If you know of some, I encourage you to enlighten me.

It seems pretty obvious that you are not the developer of Razor, so please refrain from commenting on what is may or may not take "too much" effort to fix.

and there are many many threads up there dealing with connecting to same computer and having problems - and zippy even has said himself - razor will not connect to 127.0.0.1 - try a different address then to use

That was *several* versions ago. Those problems have, as far as I know, been addressed.

but i have players that can connect to my shard with UOG, but can not with connect uo, do not know what the problem is - but they just "hang" at the start up screen, so they repatch and go back to using UOG -- they may not have posted the problems on the connect uo forums - because they got UOG to work instead

You have to understand that if the program works for its creator(s) and no one ever reports any problems with it then the creator has no choice other than to assume the program is working flawlessly. Getting a different program to work and then refusing to post any bug reports does not give you the right to complain about the program not improving. That's like complaining that the pizza delivery man as not come to your house when you did not even call him.

[KooKie MoNsTeR]

Ok, I'm going to start over.

First off, does it matter if I'm using my laptop?
I downloaded RunUO 2.0 RC1. Where do I extract the files to?
I have .net framework v 2.0.50727 and my UO client is patched to 5.0.8.2. I'm going to be using ConnectUO without Razor. When I go to Add Local Server in CUO, what should the host address and port be? And then the checkbox that says "Patch client encryption" should that be checked or unchecked?

Now, according to this I need to #5 Open up explorer and go to the RunUO directory. What does that mean? Or is that for UOG and I shouldn't even worry about it?

And finally, tell me if this is right or wrong. Once all of that is figured out, I am supposed to run RunUO.exe and let it load up, then open CUO and try to log in? But when RunUO asks me to set up an administrative account I should give that info first, then log in?

Sorry if I sound like a complete newb... but I am.

[Malaperth]

Originally Posted by KooKie MoNsTeR

Ok, I'm going to start over.

First off, does it matter if I'm using my laptop?
I downloaded RunUO 2.0 RC1. Where do I extract the files to?
I have .net framework v 2.0.50727 and my UO client is patched to 5.0.8.2. I'm going to be using ConnectUO without Razor. When I go to Add Local Server in CUO, what should the host address and port be? And then the checkbox that says "Patch client encryption" should that be checked or unchecked?

Now, according to this I need to #5 Open up explorer and go to the RunUO directory. What does that mean? Or is that for UOG and I shouldn't even worry about it?

And finally, tell me if this is right or wrong. Once all of that is figured out, I am supposed to run RunUO.exe and let it load up, then open CUO and try to log in? But when RunUO asks me to set up an administrative account I should give that info first, then log in?

Sorry if I sound like a complete newb... but I am.

You extract the files to your hard drive. Location does not matter as long as you can find it.

If you are on the same machine as the server, put 127.0.0.1 for the ip to log into in ConnectUO. Patch Client Encryption should be checked.

You will normally need to find your RunUO folder and find the file ServerList.cs and enter your internet (wan) IP in the spot indicated in the file itself. You can find your wan IP from whatismyip.com.

You will need to start the server first and make an admin account, and then you can attempt to log in.

[KooKie MoNsTeR]

Originally Posted by Malaperth

You will normally need to find your RunUO folder and find the file ServerList.cs and enter your internet (wan) IP in the spot indicated in the file itself. You can find your wan IP from whatismyip.com.

Ok, I found ServerList.cs but how do I open it?

[Malaperth]

You can open it with Notepad, but I recommend this:

Microsoft makes Visual Studio Express Free!!!

[KooKie MoNsTeR]

ok I did all that, but I cant connect. I enter the account info and it gives the message "Cannot connect to Ultima Online. Please try again in a few minutes."

And where exactly should I put my ip in the ServerList.cs?

[Malaperth]

Well, it's this line:

public static readonly string Address = null;

and when you enter your IP, make sure you put " " around the IP address.

You can also go to UOGateway.com and find MrFixit's serverlist.cs as that is already set up and can often be helpful to new admins.