KR Graphics, shitty or not?

[Anti-Basic]

Originally Posted by TMSTKSBK

I'm an optimist. Why not? I don't like being depressed all the time.

when you look at screenshots of horribly deformed characters and strange pastely haze and automatically think "well it will be better when you're playing it" the optimism is blind and hopeless, as it usually is. I'm gonna make a poll after its out and see what people think then. I bet the majority of people were like "OMG how purty" before third dawn came out as well.

I'm not saying you should be completely pessimistic either, but this is Electronic Arts we are talking about, for fucks sake. Realism is better than both.

An optimist can look at a starving kid, and say "Well, at least he has good bone structure."

[TMSTKSBK]

I didn't say I like the graphics. In fact, it just doesn't amount to a hill of beans with me either way.

However, I don't think it's fair for us to judge the way the game will look based on alpha/beta screenshots. It can still change -- that's the nature of alpha/beta -- it's not done yet.

[Anti-Basic]

Oh bull, the art is already done, thats why they sent the screens, the stuff theyre doing now is probably all internal stuff.

[TMSTKSBK]

You don't know that absolutely. In fact, I believe the dude at the town hall said something about it looking different when complete.

[PappaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

Oh bull, the art is already done, that's why they sent the screens, the stuff they're doing now is probably all internal stuff.

Don't you read? Or do you just come here and spout out one sided opinions and swear demean and be little everyone trying to get your opinion stated as the only truth?

First off the Heaviest part of the internal testing was done during the closed beta...if you read stratics or the weekly 5 on Friday's you'd know that. Secondly they are in a small scale Open Beta with only a couple hundred testers getting invites, where they are focusing on Graphical issues and compatibility between the legacy 2D and the KR client....if you read stratics and 5 on Friday you'd know this. Third, the next phase is still a Beta Test at which point the fugly 3D client will go *poof* and more work on compatibility and bugs will be worked on and will be tested across all shards...if you read Stratics and the 5 on Friday's you'd know this. The last "Beta" will have over 10,000 players trying out the new client to get feedback and see how it's accepted through tracking which client is used to connect and finding small bugs and graphical errors. Once again you'd know this if you read Stratics and 5 on Friday.

Basically until you research and gather information from multiple sources with the ability to site those sources you have no reason or right to come on these forums and act in a hostile manner to everyone who holds a different opinion than yourself. From what I see EA is doing a good job in testing and they know they won't please everyone but at least but doing it in stages and gradually increasing the access to the "Beta" KR Client they going about things the right way.

I don't like everything I've seen from the KR Client but those things are still subject to change. Even in the past few months they have done changes to fix issues with the CURRENT 2D clients map art that has been faulty for ages as it was reported and requests were made. They only announce about 20% of what a patch contains a lot is due to internal testing which never finished on a project of that scale that updates and changes that often. Many times the contents of a patch are designed for Client to Server data stream or to fix small issues that have no effect on game play. So until you try it don't harass anyone who has an opinion of this client it's immature and honestly you keep it up I'll join the Perma-Ban AB band wagon due to your distasteful and disrespectful nature to your fellow posters here.

I swear your getting worse than Phantom ever did and you see what happened to him.....

[PappaSmurf]

Originally Posted by David

It's true.

Please don't encourage him, his shrink would call that counter productive to their efforts.

[Anti-Basic]

Originally Posted by PappaSmurf

Don't you read? Or do you just come here and spout out one sided opinions and swear demean and be little everyone trying to get your opinion stated as the only truth?

First off the Heaviest part of the internal testing was done during the closed beta...if you read stratics or the weekly 5 on Friday's you'd know that. Secondly they are in a small scale Open Beta with only a couple hundred testers getting invites, where they are focusing on Graphical issues and compatibility between the legacy 2D and the KR client....if you read stratics and 5 on Friday you'd know this. Third, the next phase is still a Beta Test at which point the fugly 3D client will go *poof* and more work on compatibility and bugs will be worked on and will be tested across all shards...if you read Stratics and the 5 on Friday's you'd know this. The last "Beta" will have over 10,000 players trying out the new client to get feedback and see how it's accepted through tracking which client is used to connect and finding small bugs and graphical errors. Once again you'd know this if you read Stratics and 5 on Friday.

None of that says they will overhaul the graphics... not a single bit... and I knew most of it, and don't care for any of it because it wont apply to runuo anyway. Regardless, As I just said none of it contradicted anything I said.

Basically until you research and gather information from multiple sources with the ability to site those sources you have no reason or right to come on these forums and act in a hostile manner to everyone who holds a different opinion than yourself. From what I see EA is doing a good job in testing and they know they won't please everyone but at least but doing it in stages and gradually increasing the access to the "Beta" KR Client they going about things the right way.

well given the above, this doesnt really matter as none of YOUR sources contradicted anything I've said.

I don't like everything I've seen from the KR Client but those things are still subject to change. Even in the past few months they have done changes to fix issues with the CURRENT 2D clients map art that has been faulty for ages as it was reported and requests were made. They only announce about 20% of what a patch contains a lot is due to internal testing which never finished on a project of that scale that updates and changes that often. Many times the contents of a patch are designed for Client to Server data stream or to fix small issues that have no effect on game play. So until you try it don't harass anyone who has an opinion of this client it's immature and honestly you keep it up I'll join the Perma-Ban AB band wagon due to your distasteful and disrespectful nature to your fellow posters here.

Go right ahead

I swear your getting worse than Phantom ever did and you see what happened to him.....

That wasn't because of rudeness... he accused someone of stealing GPL code and didnt provide proof, regardless of whether he was right or wrong, or whether Ryan was right to permaban him for it or not, it wasn't his rudeness that got him banned.

[PappaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

That wasn't because of rudeness... he accused someone of stealing GPL code and didnt provide proof, regardless of whether he was right or wrong, or whether Ryan was right to permaban him for it or not, it wasn't his rudeness that got him banned.

Actually he got several bans for being rude and hostile to other posters on a regular basis, there is one major difference between him and you though He at least helped quite often and contributed to the RunUO project with quality scripts and systems. For that matter I've seen you do things that have on a regular basis gotten many other former members of this community permabaned.

Granted you've been around a while but that gives you no right to bully harrass and act in a obsence manner to any poster.

[TMSTKSBK]

Guys, talking about banned members is frowned upon >_>...

[Anti-Basic]

#1: You said 'look what happened to him'
#2: No responses to the other parts of my post.. y'know the main argument? I'm saddened, I really am, I expected more.
#3: TMS is right, lets both stfu about him (and yes tms, you can sig that if you want)

[Joeku]

*eats some more popcorn*

[PappaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

#2: No responses to the other parts of my post.. y'know the main argument? I'm saddened, I really am, I expected more.

My main thing is your stating that everything with KR is set in stone as far as graphics go and then resulting to petty insults and vulgar behavior against any of those that differ from your opinion.

Now onto your #2 concern since I'm more than willing to drop the other two. KR's Graphics can't be judged at the moment. Until EA lifts the NDA which will happen in the next phase of Beta Testing according to their website, and more screenshots and possibly some hands on experience by members of the UO community can an honest opinion be generated. This much I will say, it's not UO as we know it from what I've seen I talk frequently with people that have attended the various Town Halls that have been going on around the country and every single one agrees that the Screenshots released do not do the new client justice. I don't like all of what I have seen but much I do like outside of the many pastel colors for flowers and the like the art works is much much more "natural" looking, which is what they want an organic environment, the grass in areas actually looks like grass. Comparing the current client to the new one isn't something that should be done without a hands on test. When the KR client comes I'll D/L and try it and I'm sure others here will too then fill you in but until then your opinions and this poll are not necessary as they are serving nothing other than boosting your own superiority complex, and giving you fodder to further expose that.

[kaball]

* more popcorn and coke *

[Anti-Basic]

Originally Posted by PappaSmurf

My main thing is your stating that everything with KR is set in stone as far as graphics go and then resulting to petty insults and vulgar behavior against any of those that differ from your opinion.

Now onto your #2 concern since I'm more than willing to drop the other two. KR's Graphics can't be judged at the moment. Until EA lifts the NDA which will happen in the next phase of Beta Testing according to their website, and more screenshots and possibly some hands on experience by members of the UO community can an honest opinion be generated. This much I will say, it's not UO as we know it from what I've seen I talk frequently with people that have attended the various Town Halls that have been going on around the country and every single one agrees that the Screenshots released do not do the new client justice. I don't like all of what I have seen but much I do like outside of the many pastel colors for flowers and the like the art works is much much more "natural" looking, which is what they want an organic environment, the grass in areas actually looks like grass. Comparing the current client to the new one isn't something that should be done without a hands on test. When the KR client comes I'll D/L and try it and I'm sure others here will too then fill you in but until then your opinions and this poll are not necessary as they are serving nothing other than boosting your own superiority complex, and giving you fodder to further expose that.

lol superiority complex lolz.

Dude, Screenshots do show it justice, I've already said that entire argument is flawed, because the only things screenshots do not show is animation. Did you even look at the guy sitting on the mount? Thats exactly the same way as it looks when riding mounts in third dawn. Legs spread eagle like hes waiting for the horse or whatever to grow a dick on his back and fuck him. everything is enlargened and pastely, THOSE ASPECTS will not change(with the exception of the enlargment, as it could have a zoom thing like Third Dawn) when playing, since they are not a result of animation

Andto those who say they may redo the entire graphics engine because people dont like it.... Refer to my above argument regarding the company we are dealing with.

[kaball]

well .. you know , when riding a horse you kinda need the legs spread to mount it lol ... thats why you say to the blond girl " heyyy u been riding the black horse "

[TMSTKSBK]

O.O...I prefer NOT being slapped. And therefore I DON'T say that.

[Anti-Basic]

Originally Posted by TMSTKSBK

O.O...I prefer NOT being slapped. And therefore I DON'T say that.

I actually like being slapped and even I don't say that....

and theres a huge difference between the way you spread your legs when riding a horse and the way it looks in KR.

[Nevaeh the Genie]

wow and i thought i was stubborn. i dont personally care for the arts but everyone has their opinion...argueing about who is right for not likeing or likeing the arts or whatever else of the game is a tad silly. so....since i can be the only stubborn master you two must go in your time out corners. *points*

[drakeypooh1]

Originally Posted by wannabe

im just saying if u dont like UOKR guess wat?
dont play it

just dont make it impossible for people around you not to play

RunUO is making it impossible for everyone around them not to play, you dolt. Go sit in a second grade classroom and learn something.

[Nevaeh the Genie]

decided not to reply to the "dolt" remark.

[Anti-Basic]

Originally Posted by drakeypooh1

RunUO is making it impossible for everyone around them not to play, you dolt. Go sit in a second grade classroom and learn something.

ummm...what?

[mordero]

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

ummm...what?

For emphasis..

[wannabe]

runuo isnt making it impossible...
they just chose not to make a emu for uokr
go code ure own damn fucken thing, get a brain please, u might want to consider going to grade 2 again(if its not too much of an advancement for you intellectual level)