After my A+ ... - RunUO

Radwen · 04-04-2007, 09:26 PM

What should I go for?
CISCO cert?
MCSA?
MCSE?
Novell certs?
Other linux certs?

Get work experience?

Whats an average salary for a Certified A+ employee in the US?

I will also have a help desk support diploma. But that may not be recognized world wide.

A help desk level 1 starts around 35k to 40k here with a 45-50k cap.

I'm aiming for world wide recognition and decent salary.

I've done and am doing research atm, but input from people is more valuable than stuff written on company websites.

Viago · 04-04-2007, 09:42 PM

id say Cisco and then novell. around here peeps get paid alot for Cisco management and or setup

EDIT: btw A+ cert wont get u anything really. used to, now days its too easy to get it.

Radwen · 04-04-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Viago

id say Cisco and then novell. around here peeps get paid alot for Cisco management and or setup

EDIT: btw A+ cert wont get u anything really. used to, now days its too easy to get it.

Its kinda why I'm not stopping after it ;-).

Puron1794 · 04-04-2007, 10:06 PM

None of the above.

Work in a LEGO factory.

Radwen · 04-04-2007, 10:11 PM

Hot sex.
Lets get married in a lego temple of doom.

Viago · 04-04-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Puron1794

None of the above.

Work in a LEGO factory.

Dont you need a LEGO a++ cert with an MBA?

Viago · 04-04-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radwen

Hot sex.
Lets get married in a lego temple of doom.

whos ball sack we going to use in the nut sack chase scene?

Puron1794 · 04-04-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Radwen

Hot sex.
Lets get married in a lego temple of doom.

with a moat
win

Viago · 04-04-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Puron1794

with a moat
win

don't ignore me...

lol

Radwen · 04-04-2007, 10:35 PM

So ya, anyone else has valuable input?

I learned that:
1, Server setup makes dollars speak.
2, I have to build a lego church of doom with a moat to get married.

PappaSmurf · 04-05-2007, 12:29 AM

Cisco Novell and Oracle for some situations MCSE is a good one to add to the list. I'd do NET+ also for some extra background info on basics of different types of networks and what benifits each would have, as it might help out later for some of the other certs, not to mention one more thing to put on a bussiness card or resume and it's not that hard.

Radwen · 04-05-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PappaSmurf

Cisco Novell and Oracle for some situations MCSE is a good one to add to the list. I'd do NET+ also for some extra background info on basics of different types of networks and what benifits each would have, as it might help out later for some of the other certs, not to mention one more thing to put on a bussiness card or resume and it's not that hard.

Sweet, I'll look into it. Thx.

Rhexis · 04-05-2007, 01:38 AM

Gimme a steady supply of legos and hot pockets and Ill build your Chapel of Doom for ya.

Radwen · 04-05-2007, 01:44 AM

O.o, really?
Sweet.

How will we tackle the moat?
Its required for a successful marriage =\.

Rhexis · 04-05-2007, 01:49 AM

Legos witha cement exterior shell? Only practical way if the moat needs to have legos. And little lily pads made out of the 'grass' lego boards.

I want some legos now. Dammit.

TMSTKSBK · 04-05-2007, 01:52 AM

I want to help with the building.

Much <3 Legos.

Radwen · 04-05-2007, 01:54 AM

Sweet. Srsly, all I need now is a bunny outfit and I'm ready for marriage.

Rhexis · 04-05-2007, 01:58 AM

Well? Where are teh logos? Cant start building til I gets thems.

and I think Ima go play TR for a while. At least I can get logos there for free. (Hahaa, a joke prolly only Ill get.)

Radwen · 04-05-2007, 02:08 AM

Well tbh marriage maybe won't be in the next few days ...

.

snicker7 · 04-05-2007, 10:47 AM

start businesses, sell them, start more businesses. sell houses and land on the side. invest in other people and make them do the work for you. sit back and wank.

Radwen · 04-05-2007, 11:01 AM

Seriously, you guys suck ass.
Give me valuable information already or I'll neg your soar asses.

**David** · 04-05-2007, 11:39 AM

Just remember who you want the cert to impress. Most hands-on IT people realize that any cert must be taken with a grain of salt. We have all seen "certified" idiots and router gods who simply can't take tests well.

In the resume/interview/hiring process a couple of (targeted) certs can make the difference in which stack your resume gets put into. I have had cull over 200 resumes for a tech position into 6 or 8 candidates and only had a few hours to devote to it. The first pass got about 90 seconds per decision. In that case an A+ showed a basic level of competence, an A+ with an MCP showed competence with some experience, an MCSE showed over qualification. (Those were not the only factors considered, but we are on the topic of certs.) However, if it is a HR person doing the culling, the more certs the better. They like letters--just put some down.

I would say; A+, then XP or Vista for the MCP, then either Cisco or Network+ and Server+, then MCSE or MCA.

noobie · 04-05-2007, 11:53 AM

honestly, I think most certificates are crap and not worth to have.

I would get some work experience, not more certificates.

When you apply for a job, they are considered as a plus, but the real factor is always work experience and the projects you have done while you were working.

Nevaeh the Genie · 04-05-2007, 12:08 PM

take it you did well on your final then. Congrats!! *tosses confetti in the air*

Radwen · 04-05-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Just remember who you want the cert to impress. Most hands-on IT people realize that any cert must be taken with a grain of salt. We have all seen "certified" idiots and router gods who simply can't take tests well.

In the resume/interview/hiring process a couple of (targeted) certs can make the difference in which stack your resume gets put into. I have had cull over 200 resumes for a tech position into 6 or 8 candidates and only had a few hours to devote to it. The first pass got about 90 seconds per decision. In that case an A+ showed a basic level of competence, an A+ with an MCP showed competence with some experience, an MCSE showed over qualification. (Those were not the only factors considered, but we are on the topic of certs.) However, if it is a HR person doing the culling, the more certs the better. They like letters--just put some down.

I would say; A+, then XP or Vista for the MCP, then either Cisco or Network+ and Server+, then MCSE or MCA.

I think you set my plan for my scholar life atm tbchwy.
Sometime when I'll be in florida I will have to go and praise you.
Worry not about your daughter

I will not touch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobie

honestly, I think most certificates are crap and not worth to have.

I would get some work experience, not more certificates.

When you apply for a job, they are considered as a plus, but the real factor is always work experience and the projects you have done while you were working.

I agree for qualification. But for selling myself, certs can be great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevaeh the Genie

take it you did well on your final then. Congrats!! *tosses confetti in the air*

Me?

04-04-2007, 09:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Radwen Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 22 Posts: 11,653	After my A+ ... What should I go for? CISCO cert? MCSA? MCSE? Novell certs? Other linux certs? Get work experience? Whats an average salary for a Certified A+ employee in the US? I will also have a help desk support diploma. But that may not be recognized world wide. A help desk level 1 starts around 35k to 40k here with a 45-50k cap. I'm aiming for world wide recognition and decent salary. I've done and am doing research atm, but input from people is more valuable than stuff written on company websites. __________________ -Socks are great. Ask Radwen. http://www.runuo.com/forums/starbucks-runuo-com/76473-ask-radwen.html

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Viago Forum Expert Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maine, USA Age: 25 Posts: 2,703	id say Cisco and then novell. around here peeps get paid alot for Cisco management and or setup EDIT: btw A+ cert wont get u anything really. used to, now days its too easy to get it. __________________ Does Sam Adam's Pee taste like Beer? Last edited by Viago; 04-04-2007 at 09:58 PM.

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Radwen Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 22 Posts: 11,653	Hot sex. Lets get married in a lego temple of doom. __________________ -Socks are great. Ask Radwen. http://www.runuo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76473

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Radwen Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 22 Posts: 11,653	So ya, anyone else has valuable input? I learned that: 1, Server setup makes dollars speak. 2, I have to build a lego church of doom with a moat to get married. __________________ -Socks are great. Ask Radwen. http://www.runuo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76473

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PappaSmurf Forum Expert Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Polishing my Lightsaber Age: 31 Posts: 2,428	Cisco Novell and Oracle for some situations MCSE is a good one to add to the list. I'd do NET+ also for some extra background info on basics of different types of networks and what benifits each would have, as it might help out later for some of the other certs, not to mention one more thing to put on a bussiness card or resume and it's not that hard. __________________ For Updated Scripts from my Releases *http*://smurfscsharp.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/

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Rhexis Forum Expert Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona Age: 23 Posts: 1,694	Gimme a steady supply of legos and hot pockets and Ill build your Chapel of Doom for ya. __________________

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Radwen Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 22 Posts: 11,653	O.o, really? Sweet. How will we tackle the moat? Its required for a successful marriage =\. __________________ -Socks are great. Ask Radwen. http://www.runuo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76473

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Rhexis Forum Expert Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona Age: 23 Posts: 1,694	Legos witha cement exterior shell? Only practical way if the moat needs to have legos. And little lily pads made out of the 'grass' lego boards. I want some legos now. Dammit. __________________

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TMSTKSBK Master of the Internet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NC/NC State Univ Age: 23 Posts: 16,424	I want to help with the building. Much <3 Legos. __________________ Goodbye, folks.

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Radwen Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 22 Posts: 11,653	Sweet. Srsly, all I need now is a bunny outfit and I'm ready for marriage. __________________ -Socks are great. Ask Radwen. http://www.runuo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76473

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Rhexis Forum Expert Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Arizona Age: 23 Posts: 1,694	Well? Where are teh logos? Cant start building til I gets thems. and I think Ima go play TR for a while. At least I can get logos there for free. (Hahaa, a joke prolly only Ill get.) __________________

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Radwen Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 22 Posts: 11,653	Well tbh marriage maybe won't be in the next few days ... . __________________ -Socks are great. Ask Radwen. http://www.runuo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76473

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Radwen Master of the Internet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 22 Posts: 11,653	Seriously, you guys suck ass. Give me valuable information already or I'll neg your soar asses. __________________ -Socks are great. Ask Radwen. http://www.runuo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76473

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David Moderate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,598	Just remember who you want the cert to impress. Most hands-on IT people realize that any cert must be taken with a grain of salt. We have all seen "certified" idiots and router gods who simply can't take tests well. In the resume/interview/hiring process a couple of (targeted) certs can make the difference in which stack your resume gets put into. I have had cull over 200 resumes for a tech position into 6 or 8 candidates and only had a few hours to devote to it. The first pass got about 90 seconds per decision. In that case an A+ showed a basic level of competence, an A+ with an MCP showed competence with some experience, an MCSE showed over qualification. (Those were not the only factors considered, but we are on the topic of certs.) However, if it is a HR person doing the culling, the more certs the better. They like letters--just put some down. I would say; A+, then XP or Vista for the MCP, then either Cisco or Network+ and Server+, then MCSE or MCA. __________________ David Forum Moderator The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Forum Rules and Guidelines RunUO Forum Search Engine Download RunUO 2.0 RC2

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noobie Forum Expert Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Istanbul/Turkey Age: 27 Posts: 425	honestly, I think most certificates are crap and not worth to have. I would get some work experience, not more certificates. When you apply for a job, they are considered as a plus, but the real factor is always work experience and the projects you have done while you were working. __________________ "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it."

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Nevaeh the Genie Forum Expert Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oregon (the place with alot of trees) Posts: 332	take it you did well on your final then. Congrats!! tosses confetti in the air

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