The american people holding the american corporation/government responsible.

[Pantera_McSlayer]

Before you start screaming propaganda before you have read this post...read this post. Really, it SHOULD go without saying.

If you hold a checking/savings account, what is the maximum you can withdraw without closing the account?

At the age of 18 I had a very hot girlfriend named April Worth. She was the spitting image of Winnona Ryder with better tits. She was a senior in high school and sadly on the night of her senior prom I had to work so my best friend Javin took her and we all know what happens after prom. Anyway, to get back at Javin for fucking my very hot girlfriend, I stole his motorcycle. After driving it around for about 6 or so hours, I had no clue what to do with it so I ditched it in my friend Rudy's neighborhood.

After pulling bong hits with Rudy and his brother and laughing about how stupid stealing the bike was we descided we were going to fucking thrash it but I wanted to take to the store one more time to buy smokes. On my way back, I was lighted by a cop while driving through an intersection because I wasnt wearing eye protection so I did the first thing that came to mind and gassed it. I ended up bouncing the bike along with myself of the side of a blazer in a driveway and into a garage door. No front brake fluid.

Anyway, my point is, this is the ONLY felony or misdemeanor I have ever commited. I am now 34 years old, cant vote, cant buy a gun, and cant be a Forensic Investigator which I want to do very badly. I have absolutely no say when it comes to voting for something dumb I did 16 years ago. This felony plagues me in many other ways still to this day. People have a hard time getting past the fact I have a felony, specially when it comes to getting a good job.

Usually, since I have no say in who our GOV officials are, I really dont give a shit who they are or what they do or did while in office. Couldnt care less...until Ole GW.

Its really baffeling the state our country and especially our economy is in. If you are poor like I am, you are fucked. All over our area and surrounding areas, plants that have been major sources for local employment are laying off people in HUGE numbers. My wife is about to be layed off when they get their last shipment all ready to be stuck in a wharehouse and I have been forced to find work as a temp. It sucks ass. I watch as the rich get richer through their estonishing greed while the poor and middle class (if there is a middle class still) are forced to continually feed their pockets with our hard earned cash.

Generally I will do any kind of labor. I dont complain about what needs to be done. I follow instructions, work well with just about anybody, and am always looking for what needs to be next. I work myass off in the hopes I can land a good paying solid job. I have always busted my ass. ALWAYS! and I have nothing to show for it.

I think about how our government through "freedom" allows corporate greed. I hate the way advertisers are allowed to sell their clients products with TV commercials. Its sickening on how stupid they think people are or make people out to be. "If you dont have this product or this service, its the worst possible problem in your life" or "Our whatever is the greatest solution to your life ever" or my favorite "Someone you know did/does it, so should you" They can say and do anything it takes to get you interested in their product. They cant say fuck or show nipples but they sure the fuck can do and say anything else.

Anyway, I got to thinking some time ago, how much money do you have to have to be considered rich? It is what you have as opposed to what you earn? Is it about how comfortable you live while still having a phat bank roll? What makes you so rich that rich people say you are rich?

I was working on the token checkbook converting it from tokens to gold and got to thinking all this thing does is esentually the same thing a regular bank does. Takes a currency and converts it into a number value and stores that information for a later referance for whatever reason and it got me to thinking, are rich people really rich or are they rich because their stored information somewhere has allot of numbers?

Think about this. Say I am an attourney and I have just landed my first client. The trial goes on for a period of time and is finally over. I win the case for my client so now I bill them by writing out a legal document called a bill with some numbers on the form of a grand total for services rendered. I really racked up the hours with this client because my time is money. In return, my client checks their stored information to see their economic value and they see the numbers their are big enough to cover my bill so they take out a piece of paper called a check, write some numbers on it, sign it, and send it to me. I take this check to my bank and the value written on the check is added from my stored information and deducted from theirs. Has any money changed hands yet or have some stored values just changed?

So now that I have this phat new value I descide I need some real fancy business cards, maybe a billboard and a commercial or two. So I tell my secretary who I pay with a check every week all this and she gets me the contacts. I call the print place thats going to print my cards and they say sure, we can do that so they call their vendors, order some rolls of paper, some ink, and pay some employees whom they pay with checks to print what I need. I get my cards and pay with a check and they take that money and pay their vendors with a check and so on and so on and not even once was a single dollar bill ever used for payment. All that ever changed was numbered values of stored information. So I ask

If you hold a checking/savings account, what is the maximum value for cash you can withdraw without closing the account?

What an utterly odd question!

Lemme ask you another question. If 25% of a banks account holders did this all at once or maybe over a short period of a few days, would they have the cash on hand to pay all of those people the cash value of their stored information? What if 50% of american account holders did this on a set date? What havoc would this create on our economy? Would a threat to the government by the american people declaring this is what we are going to do as a nation on this date be enough to get immediate reform on thing like using foriegn oil? Immigration? Welfare? Corporate greed? Lobbiest funding? Credit reform? Amercian businesses moving their jobs back onto american soil?

Its something to think about.

[TheOutkastDev]

Originally Posted by Pantera_McSlayer

If you hold a checking/savings account, what is the maximum value for cash you can withdraw without closing the account?

What an utterly odd question!

Lemme ask you another question. If 25% of a banks account holders did this all at once or maybe over a short period of a few days, would they have the cash on hand to pay all of those people the cash value of their stored information? What if 50% of american account holders did this on a set date? What havoc would this create on our economy? Would a threat to the government by the american people declaring this is what we are going to do as a nation on this date be enough to get immediate reform on thing like using foriegn oil? Immigration? Welfare? Corporate greed? Lobbiest funding? Credit reform? Amercian businesses moving their jobs back onto american soil?

Its something to think about.

Do you know what the FDIC is?

[HellRazor]

Are you one of those guys who posts those long crazy numerology posts on Usenet?

[Anti-Basic]

theflatearthsociety.org - Index

You and these guys should get along great.

[Arkad]

Not to be a jerk or anything...but this is really retarded.

[Admin God]

wow i wonder how some people get to be that stupid.

[Pantera_McSlayer]

TheOutkastDev-The whole point to this post was not to institute an uprising but just a thought. An observation to how things are really ran. Its all just numbers with no actual equal physical cash total to back up the numbers and there is no way that if enough people were to try and pull something like this off, the FDIC would have enough cash on hand or beable get it out fast enough to prevent a sudden actual crash. There would be an impact somewhere and not a positive one and not a short term one either. I really think something like this although I dont see it being coordinated, could hold this countries financial interest for ransom...so to speak. Did you know that sometime after WWI, Japan bought a SHITLOAD of american bonds (not sure what kind of bonds) but if they were to cash them in, it would litterally bankrupt this country.

FDIC = More stored values but only with promises.
Im sure the FDIC could cover everyday occurences but nothing on a national scale.

Arkad-You are retarded...retard...not to be a jerk or anything of course...retard

Anti-Basic-Never heard of them...how do you know of them is the question.

HellRazor-Um...no.

Im sorry, I guess I should have posted something about licking my own nuts or something generic and pointless like that so everybody could feel good about their clevernesses through their clever comments.

Its...just...something...I...thought...about...and ...how...I...got...to...thinking...about...it.

Now that i said it slowly, everybody can take a chill pill and maybe come down off their high horses.

*whew* didnt know I got in line with all the stiffs.

[Johabius]

Yes, it's always good to post about taking an entire countries financial system hostage on a public message board. Say hello to the Department of Homeland Security for me.

[Arkad]

Firstly, you start the post with a long stupid story about how you stole and crashed your friends bike because he did your highschool sweetheart after Prom, which is completely irrelevant to the point at the bottom.

Secondly, you've clearly flunked economics so I don't think you should be calling anyone names after a thread like this. The FDIC insures all deposits on banks and savings and loan institutions - the FDIC is backed by the government, you do realize we print our own money out of thin air, right?

I know a lot of damage has already been done, but its never too late to start your education again.

Say no to drugs.

[HellRazor]

Sorry bud, but the thing is, this sounds like the same kind of ranting that I see in chain emails and on wacked out internet posts by conspiracy theorists.

You're going to have to make this a lot more interesting, and back it up with a lot more factual evidence, if you're going to make people think about it. I mean, really, I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make. You lost me somewhere between your "hot girlfriend April Worth" and the weird rant about how you hate advertisements.

[Alcyone]

hmmmm, I got lost somewhere between the felony, not being able to vote, not being able to get a job, and all that ending up where it ended up. Stream of concience write much?

[Lysdexic]

A simple metaphor answers the question: Are you really born to just die?

No sense in letting it get to you, we're all fools in this society.

[HellRazor]

All we are is dust in the wind.

Dude.

[Lysdexic]

rofl

Cmon though, this is the US, our wind is GWB's fart.

[anybody]

Originally Posted by Pantera_McSlayer

FDIC = More stored values but only with promises.
Im sure the FDIC could cover everyday occurences but nothing on a national scale

Yes they can. The Federal Reserve was put in place so our government can barrow endless amounts of money.

[crackrat]

Originally Posted by anybody

Yes they can. The Federal Reserve was put in place so our government can barrow endless amounts of money.

best look up the federal reserve its history and controlling interests. the organization claimed to be broke in january and shows a deficit for the last couple months.

[anybody]

Originally Posted by crackrat

best look up the federal reserve its history and controlling interests. the organization claimed to be broke in january and shows a deficit for the last couple months.

That is pure bullshit. Don't believe everything you hear. In fact stop watching TV altogether and do some reading on our economic history.

In 1907 , J.P. Morgan, who was considered to be a financial luminary at the time exploited his mass influence by publishing rumors of a prominent bank in New York was bankrupt. This caused mass histaria. The public in fear of losing their deposits immediately began mass withdrawals. Consequently the banks were forced to call in their loans causing recipients to sell their property thus a spiral of bankruptcy, repossessions and turmoil emerged. The panic of 1907 lead to a congressional investigation lead by Senator Nelson Aldrich who later married in to one of the largest banking cartels, the Rockefeller family. The commission lead by Aldrich recommended a central bank should be implemented so a panic like 1907 could never happen again. In 1913 Woodrow Wilson became president and on December 23rd when most of congress was at home with their families the Federal Reserve Act was voted in and Wilson in tern made it law. Now the public was told that the Federal Reserve system was a economic stabilizer and inflation and economic crises was a thing of the past and as history has shown nothing is further from the truth. Ironically the federal reserve system is governed by a board of international bankers and has been since it's enactment these people literally control our economy because they control the production of our currency.

Before The enactment of the federal reserve our currency was based on a gold system and under executive order from the president the people were threatened with a ten year jail term if they didn't turn in their gold and at the end of 1933 the gold standard was abolished. Any money printed before 1933 says it is redeemable in gold. You look at a dollar bill today it says it is legal tender which means it is backed by absolutely nothing. This also meaning they can print as much or as little of it as they want. These bankers can control the rise and the fall of our economy by simply printing more or less money and these same people are responsible for 'Black Tuesday' the October 29th, 1929 Stock Market crash that lead us into the great depression here in America and the only reason the stock market crash continued into a depression was because the board of directors of the federal reserve system decided to stopped printing money and any money in the system was eventually circulated out by banks backed by the federal reserve system leaving very little money left in the economy. You can't possibly make any money if there is no money in the economy to go around.

The people behind the federal reserve system are responsible for the three greatest economic crisis in American History and with the Federal Reserve System they completely control the direction of our economy and to make things even worse is in this day and age they control the majority of our resources. You seriously think that the war in Iraq really has anything to do with our gas prices here in the US?

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than any standing army... If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency... The banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.

Thomas Jefferson 1743 - 1826

[Rosetta]

Pantera_McSlayer you say you're 34, but it shows you as 25.

What you wrote made it easy to get lost. But the general gist of it seems to be given most money is electronic. How much physical money can one take out of the bank if they are a very rich person. Is that what you're trying to ask?

[shtoink]

YouTube - GOLD VS DOLLAR

:P

http://advancedcomputingdevices.com/zeitgeist/p3/

Those my be utter crap, or supreme truth, but interesting nonetheless

[crackrat]

I wont bother quoting you 'anybody' ...there is no need to because you understand better than your previous post might suggest. I simply was pointing you in the direction to seek knowledge. The federal reserve is not a branch of our govt designed to print money, as a majority of people seem to think. I'm sorry that I took you to suggest this by your previous post. I do have no doubt that how America has indebted itself is the cause of these "news reports", as fear is a very powerful tool.

the main money behind the federal reserve is very old world money whos names delve into what some might call "conspiracy theories". Mr. Jefferson as well as Mr. Franklin had full right to worry about banks and their ways, as we should question even more in these modern times. If you dig deep these old world names they keep coming up tied to things such as Bilderburg group and the NWO.

I'm glad I misunderstood you as you did me. that we are actually somat on the same track. As to where you tied my post with gas prices and the funding of the war. Future generations of Americans will not be happy to find out just how much money we actually do owe to japan and china and others over this "war".This "war" has also been quite profitable for the families behind the funding of our "federal reserve".

While Gas prices are high to American standards are just barely beginning to catch up to the of the rest of the world and will go up quite a bit before this trend tapers off. *shrugs* like it or not this also seems to be part of the grand plan.

Unfortunately most Americans have been dumbed down to care only of momentary conveniences. We have become a nation of worldly ignorant, burger eating, hypochondriacs that all take comfort in slogans, campaign promises, and Gilligan's Island reruns. This shows blatantly in our choices of our elected (and soon to be) officials, our entertainment, and of our lifestyle. that is very sad, tbh.

[Anti-Basic]

I held your mom responsible last night. No, A thread like this is not worthy of a serious response

[anybody]

Originally Posted by crackrat

the main money behind the federal reserve is very old world money whos names delve into what some might call "conspiracy theories".

You kinda lost me here. Are you suggesting our money is actually backed by something more then just printed paper? I want to read your source of information.

Originally Posted by crackrat

This "war" has also been quite profitable for the families behind the funding of our "federal reserve".

That it surely has.

[Lord_Greywolf]

our bank accounts might be backed by the FDIC
but
have you ever read all the fine print that goes into that

1st - there is a limit of 100,000 per person (not per account, per person) per bank (not branch, but bank)
2nd - They do not have to pay it all at once to you, they can pay it in an amount that would not cause the goverment and hardships
Min rate of payback is set at $1 (thats right 1 dollar) per year per person per bank

so just because it is back by the FDIC does not mean you will ever see any money if a bank goes down
1 bank - probably
many banks - like in the depression - probably never

also for those that think, we can just print more and more money any time we want
we can't
each dollar that is printed, coin stamped, etc is recorded
as is each that is destroyed by the goverment (old money is destroyed on a regular basises), or confirmed destroyed by other means, is recorded

and that shows how much "american dollars" are out there
we print more up with out destroying enough to keep it even
our numbers go up
and that is checked back to what the US is worth
more money out there, dollar is worth less
less moneyt out there, dollar is worth more
of course as the US worth also goes up and down, effects it aslo

And those japaneese bonds (if they are still worth the paper they where printed on - depends on what type of bonds), other depts, loans, other bonds, etc are all tabulated to the net Worth of the US

they know that we owe so in so 5 trillion dollars, and that this country owes us 2 trillion and that one 3, etc etc

finally it is all tabulated, but some super computer some place
and states how much our money is worth

also the amount of gold that we do have stored, does contribute to our net worth as well
so we may or may not be based on the gold standard, but it truely is by default of the one with the gold, controls it