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Old 06-22-2008, 07:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is probably the most disturbing piece of news I've seen in a long time.

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I hope that son of a bitch who did this goes to prison and gets shanked.
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I take it from reading the story the girl was raped. Which makes it even more of a traumatic situation for her. There is some truly disgusting people in this world.
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Burn the bastard, that's a fitting end for him.
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Why would people want to do that to a little girl? People in this world are so fucked up. Hopefully the man who did it will go to prison so he can see how the girl feels when some big dick inmate butt nails him.
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Burn the bastard, that's a fitting end for him.
Agreed, that is just someone that the world does not need around.
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its disgusting and i agree the dude should be burned, but it doesnt shock me in the least, the rape and all makes me sick to my stomache, but theres 10 yr olds who dont get raped and have been pregnant, ofcourse, im sure most have lost the baby or got an abortion, but still.

and im sure there is going to be a big ass controversial crap because the rapist was an illegal hispanic immigrant to gj furthing fucking other hispanics reps mister cant keep dick in pants
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its disgusting and i agree the dude should be burned, but it doesnt shock me in the least, the rape and all makes me sick to my stomache, but theres 10 yr olds who dont get raped and have been pregnant, ofcourse, im sure most have lost the baby or got an abortion, but still.

and im sure there is going to be a big ass controversial crap because the rapist was an illegal hispanic immigrant to gj furthing fucking other hispanics reps mister cant keep dick in pants
It's too bad that race/culture would be a focus here, but your probably right. I didn't even think about it.

I don't think 10 yr olds really know enough about sex for it to be really consensual. I mean maybe not rape, but I can't think of any situation where it wouldn't be something out of sorts.

I feel for that girl, that would be a hard way to have life. It's amazing that the baby would live with someone that young giving birth. Hell the girl living after giving birth at that age is a miracle. Just wow... thinking on being raped and pregnant at such a young age. That will take a lot of time and therapy or at least a good environment for the rest of her young life to get over something like that.

The poor poor dear... makes me cry thinking on it.
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No. It's rape.

The youngest mother was...like...four. yay Wikipedia telling me things I never wanted to know.
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Isn't it technically 5?
But shes an abnormality ... she started menstruating at 8 months and had pubic hair and breasts at 4 years old.
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its disgusting and i agree the dude should be burned, but it doesnt shock me in the least, the rape and all makes me sick to my stomache, but theres 10 yr olds who dont get raped and have been pregnant, ofcourse, im sure most have lost the baby or got an abortion, but still.

and im sure there is going to be a big ass controversial crap because the rapist was an illegal hispanic immigrant to gj furthering fucking other hispanics reps mister cant keep dick in pants

no pretty much its the rape and the severity/nature of the crime that boils me about the crime... this poor little girl was forced into growing up really fast and i feel for her on this.

on the subject of the illegal immigrant that committed the crime I hope he gets his just due and in proper process of the law.after that is said and done i hope he finds a cell mate that will give him the same treatment for many years to come. After he is allowed to get out i would hope that our govt would drop him on that side of the imaginary fence and tell him to go home . I also hope that where they drop him off is in an area that is two shades hotter than hell. and they best make sure that he doesn't come back again.

I can decipher the difference in between illegal immigrants, legal immigrants and u.s. citizens of Hispanic heritage. while it doesn't make this crime any better or worse, the rash of incidents like this in the past few weeks/months/years does not help the rather lame cause of the illegal immigrants. that sir is not a racist look on things but rather an informed look at that subject.
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Even if she had consented, she's well under age so it's still statutory rape. I'm just suprised her parents didn't abort, because even though I'm a christian there are extreme enough circumstances that would require it (namely, it's a huge danger to the mother and the child). All of this sickens me to my core, jail time is not enough for this man.

The sickest parts are that:
1) Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez is being held for OTHER rape charges as well (apparently she wasn't his first).
2) he shouldn't even be in this country


Something has to be done about all this, and it's not even just illegal immigrants. We need to find a way to prevent the rapist mindset, obviously there is something happening in these people's lives that is making them this way (apart from mental handicaps, though I'm sure those are present as well). Of course, to tell a family they're breeding a rapist and forcing them to raise them right would be the state interfering with peoples lives.

**side note: I also find it ridiculous that his fine would only be 50,000 dollars, not even the amount for copyright violation...what is wrong with our legal system...
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1) he shouldn't even be in this country
2) Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez is being held for OTHER rape charges as well (apparently she wasn't his first).
Yes, the fact that he crossed the border illegally is sicker than the fact that he forcefully ravaged a 10 year old girl's vagina. You've found the real tragedy in the situation.
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Yes, the fact that he crossed the border illegally is sicker than the fact that he forcefully ravaged a 10 year old girl's vagina. You've found the real tragedy in the situation.
*sigh* He wouldn't have raped her if he wasn't here now would he have? besides, that wasn't in ranked order perse.
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*sigh* He wouldn't have raped her if he wasn't here now would he have? besides, that wasn't in ranked order perse.
So? That wouldn't change the fact that fully naturalized citizens do this sort of shit all the fucking time.

They weren't ranked in order, but you said that the fact that he was 1) An illegal immigrant and 2) a repeat offender were the "sickest parts". While I certainly agree with the latter, the first has very very little to do with anything.
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Rape happens. Its horrible but its no surprise. What strikes me about this case is that the parents didn't abort.
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So? That wouldn't change the fact that fully naturalized citizens do this sort of shit all the fucking time.

They weren't ranked in order, but you said that the fact that he was 1) An illegal immigrant and 2) a repeat offender were the "sickest parts". While I certainly agree with the latter, the first has very very little to do with anything.
I was speaking of this instance, centric around juarez specifically, so yes it has everything to do with the situation. He shouldn't have been here, and He raped more than 1 person so all in all it is very relevant that he is an illegal immigrant.
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I was speaking of this instance, centric around juarez specifically, so yes it has everything to do with the situation. He shouldn't have been here, and He raped more than 1 person so all in all it is very relevant that he is an illegal immigrant.
But it still shouldn't be considered "sicker" than raping a 10 year old. (which you did not mentionj under your "sickest" parts at all) And considering he probably would have been able to enter the country legally anyway (and then done the same thing), how he got here has very little bearing on the situation at all.
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I was speaking of this instance, centric around juarez specifically, so yes it has everything to do with the situation. He shouldn't have been here, and He raped more than 1 person so all in all it is very relevant that he is an illegal immigrant.
Is it? Would it matter less if he had raped a ten year old Mexican girl in Mexico (or other nationalities)? Happens all the time in all countries. Doesn't make it any more a tragedy that it's in the USA/Canada/wherever.
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Even if she had consented, she's well under age so it's still statutory rape. I'm just suprised her parents didn't abort, because even though I'm a christian there are extreme enough circumstances that would require it (namely, it's a huge danger to the mother and the child). All of this sickens me to my core, jail time is not enough for this man.

The sickest parts are that:
1) Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez is being held for OTHER rape charges as well (apparently she wasn't his first).
2) he shouldn't even be in this country


Something has to be done about all this, and it's not even just illegal immigrants. We need to find a way to prevent the rapist mindset, obviously there is something happening in these people's lives that is making them this way (apart from mental handicaps, though I'm sure those are present as well). Of course, to tell a family they're breeding a rapist and forcing them to raise them right would be the state interfering with peoples lives.

**side note: I also find it ridiculous that his fine would only be 50,000 dollars, not even the amount for copyright violation...what is wrong with our legal system...
If your child was 10 years old, and pregnant would you know about it?

I mean it's not something that would cross someones mind normally. Here's an anatomy lesson for you guys - like it or not - when a girl is first starting to develop into a woman the early symptoms for pregnancy are similar. Sore and enlarging breasts, nausea, hunger and food cravings change, missed or irregular periods, different libido, skin changes, water retention throughout the body, etc... I could go on but I think the point is made. So by the time they might have figured out she was pregnant it could have been months. And a little girl is just not going to be that in tune with her body to know that something is not right, especially at that time in her life.

Another factor would be how legal is abortion in the state she is in, and would it have caused more physical trauma to the little girl if she had an abortion. Not many men know this but it is a danger when aborting that a woman may not be able to have another baby. And taking that away from the girl might have also been something to consider.

So before we jump down the parents throats for not "taking care" of the pregnancy lets all remember that it is the body of a developing young girl, her body can get fucked up for life depending heavily on her personal health considerations. And I really don't think that they are going to release that kind of information on a news article about a child.
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But it still shouldn't be considered "sicker" than raping a 10 year old. (which you did not mentionj under your "sickest" parts at all) And considering he probably would have been able to enter the country legally anyway (and then done the same thing), how he got here has very little bearing on the situation at all.
I think AB is right on this one. The rape is a lot more of a concern then where the man happened to have been born or if he has a social security number.
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Is it? Would it matter less if he had raped a ten year old Mexican girl in Mexico (or other nationalities)? Happens all the time in all countries. Doesn't make it any more a tragedy that it's in the USA/Canada/wherever.
Obviously those lesser people from not-America are more deserving of rape and such for being communist heathens.

I wonder what arketype would think if the victim were the illegal immigrant and the attacker a fully naturalized citizen. Probably be all the girls fault for being here illegally.
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It is unfortunate that the guy was in the country when he wasn't supposed to be to begin with.

In conjunction with the (much more unfortunate) fact that he raped/impregnated some very little girl, this fact becomes more unfortunate than it would be by itself.

I also agree that death is too good for him.
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and the most unfortunate part is that this is not his only victim, which tends to make me wonder.... why regardless to what his legal status was, why was he still on the street able to do it again. If the reason that he was still on the street had anything to do with his status in this country, then well it does have bearing ,however the crime itself has more bearing at this time. They better put this guy away and then after they better address all the other issues this individual has.
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