ICANN changing domain name rules

[anybody]

Originally Posted by Lysdexic

The problem is that it will never work. ICANN holds no jurisdiction over anything, they are strictly a set of rules and not laws. They cannot punish those who deviate, nor can they force the governments of those who deviate to punish. ICANN cannot even revoke an address or even mandate that a certain entity can no longer buy addresses.

I've wanted a .XXX or some other higher level domain for quite some time for ease of administration, but even the best admistrator knows that even if the whole world followed the rules and kept all the ill-sites in this range, there is no block on this planet that will work unless you literally pull the plug (and now with WiFi USB keyfobs, this don't even work). However, I have never wanted this for the aide of parents. If your kid is surfing porn, then it's your own fucking fault you weren't there with them to help guide them in this thing called life (I don't care if you choose to restrict or to educate, as long as you do something to protect them)... or did you forget that was your job in the first place?

Yeah, that is a good point.

[Johabius]

Originally Posted by oiii88

The funny thing I see is they are going to allow .sex yet banned .xxx because of its sexual overtones.. Im almost certain the local hardware store wont be using a .sex url but a porn site would.

I will be among the first non-porn industry type people to register a .sex domain, just to fuck with people.

[Admin God]

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

Hi, there's this new thing called freedom, might want to check it out.

Aye. That's part of what makes the internet great.

@Topic: It's not that I don't like the .hotel or whatever its that I'm worried about it from a security standpoint. Part of my job description includes protecting stupid people on the internet from doing stupid things. Now say someone wants to spoof chase.com with chase.bank, most of the people I work with wouldn't think anything of it and probably think it's more legit. Yes I realize this already happens occasionally with .net, .org, chasebank.com, etc but the way I see it, companies can more easily protect themselves from spoofs right now because there are a limited number of similar names that they themselves can buy up. I'm sure it won't be more of an issue than it is now, but the thought it might be easier for this type of thing is enough to make me balk at the change.

[TMSTKSBK]

And I will applaud you all the way to bankruptcy court.

[Admin God]

Originally Posted by TMSTKSBK

And I will applaud you all the way to bankruptcy court.

um... this was meant for johab right?



P.S. I want more apple dapples.

[Anti-Basic]

Another big concern is what if a single travel company buys up .travel, and decides not to let other travel agencies use it.

[Admin God]

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

Another big concern is what if a single travel company buys up .travel, and decides not to let other travel agencies use it.

They'd have a hell of a lot of money tied up in that but yeah. Ebay has been saying they are going to buy alll .ebay

[Anti-Basic]

I think actual trademarks would be fine, but not for .hotel, .grocery, etc

[Vorspire]

Whoever the hell can't use or remember to type .com or any other respective domain suffix for the website they want to get to, should be shot or strangled with their modem cable.

Why the hell do they think book-marks were invented?!

[Vorspire]

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

Another big concern is what if a single travel company buys up .travel, and decides not to let other travel agencies use it.

Impossible. Why hasn't Bill Gates bought every single .com? -for the same reason... He can't aford it.

[Anti-Basic]

You misunderstand, in order to offer domains like that, someone is going to have to own or run the TLD for each. Like currently, Verisign runs .com and .net. Thus a whole lot of TLDs themselves will be open for sale. Care must be taken to make sure that whoever buys a TLD like that is not biased or corrupted towards one company who might be potential register of a second level. (a similar situation is already happening with .asia and pool.com)

oh and my .travel example is moot cuz .travel already IS a TLD (owned by Tralliance) didn't know that till like 5 minutes ago.

[Vorspire]

No offence, but you need to read up on the Domain Name Service.

Domain Name System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Any computer can run a DNS server, but it must be registered and bound to the DNS Back-bone servers using A records etc.

Any computer can run a Name-Server, but that also has to be linked with your DNS server in order to propogate Domain Names correctly.

In theory, if the DNS Back-Bone supports ".travel" suffixes within it's NameServer for registering Domain Names, the amount of Domain Names available to each suffix is endless, just like with ".com", etc...

The only competition involved would be if two companies tried to buy something like "www.HelloWorld.travel"

[Anti-Basic]

Not talking about second level, talking about top level...

and unlimited possibilities for second levels doesn't mean they are required to allow them all to be registered. Hell, if you buy a TLD you might not be required to offer second level registrations to the public at all O.o

[Vorspire]

<Copy and paste my last post here>

[Admin God]

dibs on .god and .yourmom

[Vorspire]

i got dibs on .porn and .google - then we'll see if google will buy me out.

[Anti-Basic]

it still isn't the same as what I'm talking about at all...

[Vorspire]

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

it still isn't the same as what I'm talking about at all...

What were you talking about again?

[Anti-Basic]

I clarified it in my edit

Originally Posted by Anti-Basic

and unlimited possibilities for second levels doesn't mean they are required to allow them all to be registered. Hell, if you buy a TLD you might not be required to offer second level registrations to the public at all O.o

[Admin God]

Originally Posted by Vorspire

No offence, but you need to read up on the Domain Name Service.

Domain Name System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Any computer can run a DNS server, but it must be registered and bound to the DNS Back-bone servers using A records etc.

Any computer can run a Name-Server, but that also has to be linked with your DNS server in order to propogate Domain Names correctly.

In theory, if the DNS Back-Bone supports ".travel" suffixes within it's NameServer for registering Domain Names, the amount of Domain Names available to each suffix is endless, just like with ".com", etc...

The only competition involved would be if two companies tried to buy something like "www.HelloWorld.travel"

Wrong.
Suggested reading...

ICANN | ICANN-Accredited Registrars
InterNIC | Domain Name System FAQs


...also it would be businesses fighting over "helloworld.travel" not "www.helloworld.travel" if we are getting nit picky.

[Vorspire]

Originally Posted by Admin God

...also it would be businesses fighting over "helloworld.travel" not "www.helloworld.travel" if we are getting nit picky.

I'm not wrong, because I have ran my own hosting company in the past. I am a network administrator/developer and I fully understand how this will work.

To be "nit-picky", you must have assumed that I didn't know that www (or html_doc) was a sub-domain. It would not matter... If one company bought "HelloWorld.travel", another company couldn't. They couldn't even have "theirname.hellowworld.travel" unless the comapny that owns "HelloWorld.travel" created an A record for the sub-domain "theirname.helloworld.travel"...

I see what's going on here though you are right in some ways, since GoDaddy just closed .me to the public.

[Admin God]

The idea we are talking about is company x becomes the registry holder for the TLD .ebay even though they have no affliation with ebay. They then decide that they will not register any domains for the company ebay and instead register people who hate ebay or who run competitive websites to ebay or some variation of this.

No one here is arguing the structure of DNS. We are talking TLDs. Under the proposed new system, any tom, dick, or harry could go and make a new TLD. There is no way ICANN could police all possible TLD's to make sure things like the ebay example don't happen.

[J MaNN]

As i said before, this is going to cost between $50,000-$100,000.