Worldbuilding Programs, Revisited, [new links]

[mogbert]

As it becomes increasingly difficult to get any Ultima online 3rd party program's, I've posted what I have on a free host, to let you download them.

1.) Cartographer - Allows you to change the in game maps, to displace locations in your custom world, rather then the original world.

cartograph.zip

2.) Dragon mod 9 - One of the earlier map editors, allows you to convert a
bitmap drawing of a map, into a ultima map.

dragonmod9.rar

3.) Dragon mod 11 - The next release of Dragon, better then dragon mod 9
allows you to convert BMP's into working map muls

dragonmod11.rar

4.) Map2BMP - allows you to convert a map mul file into a Bmp file for further
editing.

map2bmp.rar

5a.)Multi editor- Allows you to construct buildings, structures of any sort, in
editing environment you can save, and later import into map
editor for placement.
5b.)Map editor - Allows you to add static items into the game, trees, tiles,
walls, also allows you to import structures created in multi
editor into the world, like houses etc..

mapeditor.rar

6.)Map Generator - Same as dragon, a little more advanced, BMP converter
into map muls.

mapgenerator.rar

7.)UO Architect - Allows you to design houses, in the editor, and load them
as tiles in the game, you can use the [freeze command with
runuo to add to the mul files.

UO Architect 2.6.rar

8.)Uo Hue editor - Allows you to add custom colors to the game, easiest one
I found to use.

UOHueEditor.rar

9.)World forge - Map editor again, allows you to manipulate tiles, offers a few features that map editor doesn't its better for altitude adjustments, and using it with map editor, makes caves alot easier to place.

worldforge.rar

Not all these files are nessesary for building a good world, but I would recommend either Dragon mod 11 or Map generator to actually generate the map, worldforge for touch ups after, (sometimes theres transitions that don't work right, plus its much easier for placing roads, and altitude adjustments) and also Map editor, and Multi editor for adding towns, and creating new structures.

There you go everyone, hope these files help.

[HellRazor]

Why not just send users to ryandor.com which is a map building site? That's where most of these files came from, and they aren't offline and never have been for any extended period of time during the past 5 years or more. Things are slow over there, seems to me it would be better to promote sites like Ryandor instead of pushing traffic for their files elsewhere.

http://uo.orbsydia.ca is the other major map editing site. Offline right now but I'm sure its only temporary.

[Sythen]

Feedback On Promoting These Websites:

Rayndor and Orbsydia are both confusing websites... you have to navigate in a sea of links to find the files which best suit your needs; not to mention the files people need to create maps don't really have discriptors or in-depth tutorials on how to use them on any of these sites.

These Sites Aren't That Newbie Friendly:

People using these sites seldom give you direct answers to any questions you might post on their forums, and if they do its usually weeks after the fact. A lot of times you'll get a response similar to what CEO is famous for: a bunch of links relating to not only your question, but also a million other questions that may or may not have anything to do with what you're trying to figure out; absolutely useless really.

My 2 Cents....

I think that since there are so many UO hobbyists out there - then we should all work together to make things easier for the next new guy who gets into this hobby.

Thank You For Listing These...

I think this guy is doing a great service by hosting these files and offering them to everyone instead of redirecting to Rayndor or Orbsydia. This makes it much easier for people to get the files they need.

[mogbert]

Originally Posted by HellRazor

Why not just send users to ryandor.com which is a map building site? That's where most of these files came from, and they aren't offline and never have been for any extended period of time during the past 5 years or more. Things are slow over there, seems to me it would be better to promote sites like Ryandor instead of pushing traffic for their files elsewhere.

http://uo.orbsydia.ca is the other major map editing site. Offline right now but I'm sure its only temporary.

Ryandor is full of porn adds last time i was there, I won't go near that site, Orbsydia, half the links are broken, much like tanjiers. why don't I? because I know those sites no longer work, and I've received at least 2 dozen people sending me pms in Runuo asking for me to send it to them because they can no longer gain access to them, so instead of being Mr' fileserver and sending the files out to everyone myself, I put em up on a host for people to gain access to.

[Sythen]

Touche.. my friend

[shtoink]

Maybe they have problems butth with better support they wont fade away. Think of what would happen if people led others away from this site.... our hobby might disapear.

There is alot of knowledge on those two sites. Although I havent messed with customs maps since runUO1.0 I couldnt have done it without the earlier incaranations of ryandor and
orbsydia.

Perhaps you could also link them to them. I mean most people are going to have questions about those apps at least, and where else to steer them to?

Just my (unasked for) 2 cents.

[Sythen]

Give credit where credit is due... therefore here's what you can do:

continue to provide the files for free on your own hosting server and include links where each of the files orginated. There, problem solved.

And I learned all of this in 1 day YAY.

[HellRazor]

Originally Posted by mogbert

Ryandor is full of porn adds last time i was there, I won't go near that site,

I visit that site daily, have visited it regularly for years, and have never, even once, ever seen a porn ad or experienced downtime. Maybe you are thinking of the old UO Gateway site.

And apparently it sure didn't stop you from going there to download 90% of the files in this thread.

Orbsydia, half the links are broken, much like tanjiers.

I've never come across broken links, although I will say that Orb has some pretty shakey up/downtime. So UO Architect and UOL are the only programs that I would give you a "get out of jail free" card on.

No one ever said anything about Tanjiers, that site hasn't been maintained for years.

why don't I? because I know those sites no longer work, and I've received at least 2 dozen people sending me pms in Runuo asking for me to send it to them because they can no longer gain access to them, so instead of being Mr' fileserver and sending the files out to everyone myself, I put em up on a host for people to gain access to.

You got most of these files from Ryandor.com's files section this week, and I know, because I sent you there. And I organized the punt file repository there and the files here are the ones I put together.

If you want to kill support sites that help promote these programs and how to use them, this is a good way to help do that. Just because you personally don't want to use the sites doesn't mean you should steal their files and throw em on some crappy free file hosting site (Christ, talk about ads, spam, and porn, you're more likely to get that from sites like mediafire than you are from ryandor.com).

This is just bad form as far as I'm concerned. No wonder the community is dying. People are just ingrates, it's all "gimmee gimmee gimmee" but no giving back. I'm surprised ryandor and orb are even still online with this type of attitude.

[mogbert]

Originally Posted by HellRazor

I visit that site daily, have visited it regularly for years, and have never, even once, ever seen a porn ad or experienced downtime. Maybe you are thinking of the old UO Gateway site.

And apparently it sure didn't stop you from going there to download 90% of the files in this thread.



I've never come across broken links, although I will say that Orb has some pretty shakey up/downtime. So UO Architect and UOL are the only programs that I would give you a "get out of jail free" card on.

No one ever said anything about Tanjiers, that site hasn't been maintained for years.



You got most of these files from Ryandor.com's files section this week, and I know, because I sent you there. And I organized the punt file repository there and the files here are the ones I put together.

If you want to kill support sites that help promote these programs and how to use them, this is a good way to help do that. Just because you personally don't want to use the sites doesn't mean you should steal their files and throw em on some crappy free file hosting site (Christ, talk about ads, spam, and porn, you're more likely to get that from sites like mediafire than you are from ryandor.com).

This is just bad form as far as I'm concerned. No wonder the community is dying. People are just ingrates, it's all "gimmee gimmee gimmee" but no giving back. I'm surprised ryandor and orb are even still online with this type of attitude.

Meh whatever, My fault for trying to help, have the staff delete the thread, I don't even care :P I'm going to play civilization 4.

And by no way am I trying to take credit for the programs. I'm just offering links to download them.

[HellRazor]

Originally Posted by mogbert

Meh whatever, My fault for trying to help, have the staff delete the thread, I don't even care :P I'm going to play civilization 4.

And by no way am I trying to take credit for the programs. I'm just offering links to download them.

I know that. And I'm not saying you should delete the post, its helpful information. I even left you positive karma about it.

All I'm saying is, support the sites that support these programs, because when those sites are gone, where will we get the files then? And who will teach anyone how to use them? I mean really, we have Ryandor.com, Orbsydia.ca (sometimes, hah), and basically that is it so far as the UO world building support sites go.

So it's not really asking so much, especially with Ryandor's site which has been up consistently and forever. You should stop by, its a friendly place and it can use some new faces. Yeah, the files section could be better organized and more user friendly, but many of those files are only available because Ryandor has kept them intact on his site for many years now, and Ryandor doesn't even play UO or run a shard any more! Otherwise they'd be lost to time, and only guys like me who have held onto all that stuff for the last 10 years would have them, and I wouldn't have anyplace to send you and other people who are looking for them.

Anyway, I know you didn't mean anything by it and are just trying to help, and I'm not trying to jump all over you or anything, honestly. Just making a point is all.

[mogbert]

Originally Posted by HellRazor

I know that. And I'm not saying you should delete the post, its helpful information. I even left you positive karma about it.

All I'm saying is, support the sites that support these programs, because when those sites are gone, where will we get the files then? And who will teach anyone how to use them? I mean really, we have Ryandor.com, Orbsydia.ca (sometimes, hah), and basically that is it so far as the UO world building support sites go.

So it's not really asking so much, especially with Ryandor's site which has been up consistently and forever. You should stop by, its a friendly place and it can use some new faces. Yeah, the files section could be better organized and more user friendly, but many of those files are only available because Ryandor has kept them intact on his site for many years now, and Ryandor doesn't even play UO or run a shard any more! Otherwise they'd be lost to time, and only guys like me who have held onto all that stuff for the last 10 years would have them, and I wouldn't have anyplace to send you and other people who are looking for them.

Anyway, I know you didn't mean anything by it and are just trying to help, and I'm not trying to jump all over you or anything, honestly. Just making a point is all.

I had a forum account with ryandor.com back when punt had his own forum for map generator, and map editor there. I went back to download the files about a year and a half ago and the forums were full of porn advertisements rather posts with links to porn, I figured the site had been abandon, with the frequency of PM's and emails requesting the programs I assumed that site had finally went down, so I posted the files, If the site is up I see no point to have this thread. Its pointless and a waist of space, so it should be deleted. thats all.

[HellRazor]

I think you hit them at a bad time. I think he DID have ONE very brief period where someone was using an exploit in the forum software to do some of that stuff. But it didn't last very long, he updated the forum software and that was the end of that. So I guess I can see where you might have thought that. But the site has never been abandoned. It's been up for as long as I can remember. It's not very fancy, as Ryandor doesn't play UO any more and he doesn't have a lot of time to make it all pretty, but it is functional. He's left the site up to support the community.

I created the punt file repository over there to preserve all of punt's utilities, which were hard to find after they decided to take the MapGen2 site down. Ryandor has been pretty much the Dragon support site ever since the Dragon site when down a few years ago.

Anyway, I encourage world builders to drop in to Ryandor.com - Maps for UO Emulation and Half-Life as its still a great place. It's not very busy these days, but you can still usually get answers to questions and there is a ton of useful world building info in their forums. And also Orbsydia whenever they get back online, from what I have heard they have suffered a severe hardware failure and need to rebuild everything from scratch.

[Khaybel]

Orbsydia will be back up soon, I just renewed my domains, and have it on a new dedicated 8 core (dual quad core remote server) aka I'm no longer hosting from my studio anymore. Which I hope will help support stablity of the site. I'm also cleaning up all the links to make it much easier to find content. Compared to the past. I hope the new site will be much easier to use. We're also opening a L2 Emu Site, and SL Site in conjuction .. the uo content will be at uo.orbsydia.ca .. more info later, or check the site. I've been swamped with client work and getting our own non emu based websites stable.

Thanks for holding the fort Hellrazor

[RadstaR]

Only one Ultima Online Builder

[kingdavid]

Feedback On Promoting These Websites:

Rayndor and Orbsydia are both confusing websites... you have to navigate in a sea of links to find the files which best suit your needs; not to mention the files people need to create maps don't really have discriptors or in-depth tutorials on how to use them on any of these sites.

These Sites Aren't That Newbie Friendly:

People using these sites seldom give you direct answers to any questions you might post on their forums, and if they do its usually weeks after the fact. A lot of times you'll get a response similar to what CEO is famous for: a bunch of links relating to not only your question, but also a million other questions that may or may not have anything to do with what you're trying to figure out; absolutely useless really.

My 2 Cents....

I think that since there are so many UO hobbyists out there - then we should all work together to make things easier for the next new guy who gets into this hobby.

Thank You For Listing These...

I think this guy is doing a great service by hosting these files and offering them to everyone instead of redirecting to Rayndor or Orbsydia. This makes it much easier for people to get the files they need.

I am new to RUNUO, it has been very hard "searching" for map making tools in a sea of broken links, outdates tools and little to no documentation. I hope this thread helps.

Thank you mogbert.

[RadstaR]

Originally Posted by kingdavid

I am new to RUNUO, it has been very hard "searching" for map making tools in a sea of broken links, outdates tools and little to no documentation. I hope this thread helps.

Thank you mogbert.

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[Pyro-Tech]

is there an english version of the UOBuilder site? or program?

[HellRazor]

Almost all of the file descriptions at UO Builder all contain english translations...

[Tomahawk]

Wheres GWP?

Genesis Worlds Project - News

Its released tomorrow, and its wayyy better than dragon or UOL from what i've seen.

[HellRazor]

Considering that its never been released, you couldn't have seen TOO much. :P

[Ravenal]

I am not here to judge, every program has it's own strength and weaknesses... Where others will try to be better than the others... I am mainly trying to fix the critical issues with what I see in Dragon and UOL... But in the near future I'll be adding the advance Static Region Editor (Allows you to control how the compiler will function).. Anyway...