Scripting In VB.NET - RunUO

rsmiller21 · 12-14-2005, 12:14 AM

I have some time off from work and school and I am going to be making some scripts in VB.NET for RunUO. On doing so I will write a little tutorial/converting essay on doing so. BTW if anyone on the forums has any questions regarding VB post here and I will try to offer my advice and assistance.

- Ryan(Not the admin Ryan)

Phantom · 12-14-2005, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmiller21

I have some time off from work and school and I am going to be making some scripts in VB.NET for RunUO. On doing so I will write a little tutorial/converting essay on doing so. BTW if anyone on the forums has any questions regarding VB post here and I will try to offer my advice and assistance.

- Ryan(Not the admin Ryan)

Just a suggestion :-)

If your good enough to work with VB.NET without help then you should. But writting a guide to help people who cannot even code in C# write code in VB.NET is a mistake.

There are very few people who can help them. Thus when they have troble only a few select people can help him.

Your welcome to do this guide, just inform people of that fact, that by writing a script in VB.NET they don't gain anything.

Wrycina · 12-14-2005, 08:32 AM

If anyone wants to see a script in VB.Net then download SharpDevelop...You can open scripts you already have in C# and convert them to VB.Net.

rsmiller21 · 12-14-2005, 01:10 PM

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If your good enough to work with VB.NET without help then you should. But writting a guide to help people who cannot even code in C# write code in VB.NET is a mistake.

lol, Phantom that is very true and some of the posts I have seen here are kinda scary. Sometimes I wonder if some of these people would instead go out and buy a book or two on programming instead of buying toys, a skateboard or a bag of pot most of these questions wouldn't be answered here.

This tutorial here is pretty simple. In it you are creating a "sample item". Basicly, I am showing side by side comparisons between C# and VB code. It is stated in the introduction that "help will be very very limited in the RunUO forums given the fact that RunUO was founded on C# and therefore supports C# development."

This tutorial will not be a primer into writting in VB for RunUO and not meant for amature programmers. This is meant for those that might want to actualy take the time to learn a new programming language on their own(With that limited support) through their own experimentation(Trial and error, something I guess they don't teach in school anymore).

Anyways, I feel like I am ranting so I will just stop now. Thanks for your post Phantom your suggestions and comments are welcomed.

- Ryan(Not the admin Ryan)

TheOutkastDev · 12-14-2005, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom

If your good enough to work with VB.NET without help then you should. But writting a guide to help people who cannot even code in C# write code in VB.NET is a mistake.

Why is it worse? Does it matter which language they can't write code in? VB.Net might be easier for some since its more verbose in syntax. I mean, its like writing a damn paragraph that you could turn in as an English paper.

rsmiller21 · 12-14-2005, 02:02 PM

VB English Paper:

Private Const

Imports System
Imports System.Text

Public Class WhyIHateOracleDBAAndForms

Public Sub WriteCrap()

For i as Integer To 150
TextBox1.Text = TextBox1.Text & " Oracle Forms Suck "
Next
End Sub

End Class

Use that code and let me know if it works lol. A+ hurray!

TheOutkastDev · 12-14-2005, 05:15 PM

My teacher said: "Brilliant work! A++! I wasn't sure what was going to happen there at the end, and that End Sub totally threw me!"

rsmiller21 · 12-14-2005, 05:35 PM

Awsome! lol

Arvoreen · 12-15-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOutkastDev

Why is it worse? Does it matter which language they can't write code in? VB.Net might be easier for some since its more verbose in syntax. I mean, its like writing a damn paragraph that you could turn in as an English paper.

I agree! I personally can't stand VB myself, but that doesn't mean other people might not gain something from it. Just like people that know C/C++/C# might say "Why learn VB? It's useless", people that are all into VB could say "Why would you want to do C? It's ugly", or something.

The more resources people have, the better all around, IMHO.

rsmiller21 · 12-15-2005, 04:41 PM

I wouldn't say VB is useless... I have been working for a freelance company for about 6 months now and all we work with is VB and ASP. I personaly have written a Administation backend in a project that connects to a Oracle Server. This application was written for Huntsman Chemical(A company of Exxon Mobile) for chromatography related retrieval and storage. Basicly, the project that I have worked with is helping to make the gassoline you put in your car or truck. I wouldn't say that is useless.

Anyways, from a beginners stand point VB might be a little easier to understand. This is the beginning of the class not end it here. Begin your procedure here and end it here. It is pretty straight forward. However, VB does have its draw backs but for the development of simple scripts written for the RunUO community this language should be just fine. I believe this is a untapped resource for the beginners to work with to better understand the fundamentals of programming.

Swerve_jnr · 12-19-2005, 12:14 PM

i luv vb, btw could you "accidently change the prices

rsmiller21 · 12-19-2005, 04:35 PM

lol, of gas? Hell, I wish I could. $2.17 here and I drive about 60 miles a day. 120+ on weekends.

Swerve_jnr · 12-28-2005, 11:03 AM

hehe lol, btw could you send me your msn address so i could speak to you about some vb applications that i'm stuck with?

rsmiller21 · 01-01-2006, 01:48 PM

Swerve_jnr, I sent you a e-mail.

Swerve_jnr · 01-01-2006, 06:21 PM

cool thx do you use msn or do you just you th e-mail?

rsmiller21 · 01-01-2006, 07:57 PM

Just e-mail. I have icq if you have it. I never much liked MSN. Sorry, for those MSN users....

Swerve_jnr · 01-03-2006, 08:26 AM

do you have it because at this moment you appear on msn as busy

rsmiller21 · 01-03-2006, 02:29 PM

Yeah, I got msn. Just message me.

Swerve_jnr · 01-04-2006, 11:17 AM

ok done it

**David** · 01-04-2006, 11:36 AM

There is one impact of RunUO scripting in VB verses C# that users should be aware of. Since the compiler processes all C# scripts first and VB scripts second, VB scripts can reference methods and properties from C# scripts--but C# scripts cannot reference methods and properties of VB scripts. They don't yet exist when the C# scripts are processed.

It is actually more a limitation on C#, and may never pose a problem, but it is only an issue if there are VB scripts present. Just wanted to be sure you were aware of that point--it may be good to mention in your tutorial.

Swerve_jnr · 01-04-2006, 11:46 AM

you see thats why we need someone like david around he thinks so time in't wastd in running into massive problems

nice 1

zeocrash · 03-08-2006, 03:00 PM

I think it's stupid to assume that if someone can't code scripts in C# they can't code in VB. I used to be a proffesional VB developer, my VB skills are top notch, I don't know the first thing about c#. I think it's great this guy want's to write a tutorial to help us VB guys out

Sep102 · 03-08-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by zeocrash

I think it's stupid to assume that if someone can't code scripts in C# they can't code in VB. I used to be a proffesional VB developer, my VB skills are top notch, I don't know the first thing about c#. I think it's great this guy want's to write a tutorial to help us VB guys out

Perhaps he is assuming that for those who have never coded anything and have no prior knowledge of programming before coming here, using VB .NET to write scripts would be a poor idea, most especially concerning the level of support they would likely receive on them than if they were written in C# (that is, not saying that VB .NET is a bad language or development platform, only that the vast majority here who know how to program most likely know more C# than VB).

Greystar · 03-08-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sep102

Perhaps he is assuming that for those who have never coded anything and have no prior knowledge of programming before coming here, using VB .NET to write scripts would be a poor idea, most especially concerning the level of support they would likely receive on them than if they were written in C# (that is, not saying that VB .NET is a bad language or development platform, only that the vast majority here who know how to program most likely know more C# than VB).

personally i know more VB then C#, but I write all my scripts in C# for the exact reason that was mentioned in this thread... the order in which they compile prevents any C# script from accessing anything in a VB script although you can have a VB script access information from a C# script... It's all just a compiler order issue... but, there you have it.

Sep102 · 03-09-2006, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Greystar

personally i know more VB then C#, but I write all my scripts in C# for the exact reason that was mentioned in this thread... the order in which they compile prevents any C# script from accessing anything in a VB script although you can have a VB script access information from a C# script... It's all just a compiler order issue... but, there you have it.

Yes, but for how many other people on these forums is that true for?

12-14-2005, 12:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
rsmiller21 Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stephenville, Tx Age: 25 Posts: 225	Scripting In VB.NET I have some time off from work and school and I am going to be making some scripts in VB.NET for RunUO. On doing so I will write a little tutorial/converting essay on doing so. BTW if anyone on the forums has any questions regarding VB post here and I will try to offer my advice and assistance. - Ryan(Not the admin Ryan)

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rsmiller21 Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stephenville, Tx Age: 25 Posts: 225	VB English Paper: Private Const Imports System Imports System.Text Public Class WhyIHateOracleDBAAndForms Public Sub WriteCrap() For i as Integer To 150 TextBox1.Text = TextBox1.Text & " Oracle Forms Suck " Next End Sub End Class Use that code and let me know if it works lol. A+ hurray!

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David Moderate Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,598	There is one impact of RunUO scripting in VB verses C# that users should be aware of. Since the compiler processes all C# scripts first and VB scripts second, VB scripts can reference methods and properties from C# scripts--but C# scripts cannot reference methods and properties of VB scripts. They don't yet exist when the C# scripts are processed. It is actually more a limitation on C#, and may never pose a problem, but it is only an issue if there are VB scripts present. Just wanted to be sure you were aware of that point--it may be good to mention in your tutorial. __________________ David Forum Moderator The RunUO.com Forum Moderator Team Forum Rules and Guidelines RunUO Forum Search Engine Download RunUO 2.0 RC2

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12-14-2005, 05:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
TheOutkastDev Forum Expert Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 21 Posts: 3,933	My teacher said: "Brilliant work! A++! I wasn't sure what was going to happen there at the end, and that End Sub totally threw me!"

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rsmiller21 Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stephenville, Tx Age: 25 Posts: 225	Awsome! lol

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rsmiller21 Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stephenville, Tx Age: 25 Posts: 225	I wouldn't say VB is useless... I have been working for a freelance company for about 6 months now and all we work with is VB and ASP. I personaly have written a Administation backend in a project that connects to a Oracle Server. This application was written for Huntsman Chemical(A company of Exxon Mobile) for chromatography related retrieval and storage. Basicly, the project that I have worked with is helping to make the gassoline you put in your car or truck. I wouldn't say that is useless. Anyways, from a beginners stand point VB might be a little easier to understand. This is the beginning of the class not end it here. Begin your procedure here and end it here. It is pretty straight forward. However, VB does have its draw backs but for the development of simple scripts written for the RunUO community this language should be just fine. I believe this is a untapped resource for the beginners to work with to better understand the fundamentals of programming.

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Swerve_jnr Join Date: May 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 16 Posts: 255	i luv vb, btw could you "accidently change the prices

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rsmiller21 Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stephenville, Tx Age: 25 Posts: 225	lol, of gas? Hell, I wish I could. $2.17 here and I drive about 60 miles a day. 120+ on weekends.

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Swerve_jnr Join Date: May 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 16 Posts: 255	hehe lol, btw could you send me your msn address so i could speak to you about some vb applications that i'm stuck with?

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rsmiller21 Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stephenville, Tx Age: 25 Posts: 225	Swerve_jnr, I sent you a e-mail.

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Swerve_jnr Join Date: May 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 16 Posts: 255	cool thx do you use msn or do you just you th e-mail?

01-01-2006, 07:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
rsmiller21 Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stephenville, Tx Age: 25 Posts: 225	Just e-mail. I have icq if you have it. I never much liked MSN. Sorry, for those MSN users....

01-03-2006, 08:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
Swerve_jnr Join Date: May 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 16 Posts: 255	do you have it because at this moment you appear on msn as busy

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rsmiller21 Forum Novice Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stephenville, Tx Age: 25 Posts: 225	Yeah, I got msn. Just message me.

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Swerve_jnr Join Date: May 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 16 Posts: 255	ok done it

01-04-2006, 11:46 AM	#21 (permalink)
Swerve_jnr Join Date: May 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 16 Posts: 255	you see thats why we need someone like david around he thinks so time in't wastd in running into massive problems nice 1

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zeocrash Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1	I think it's stupid to assume that if someone can't code scripts in C# they can't code in VB. I used to be a proffesional VB developer, my VB skills are top notch, I don't know the first thing about c#. I think it's great this guy want's to write a tutorial to help us VB guys out

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