Open source XNA Ultima Online client - Page 3 - RunUO

Poplicola · 06-16-2009, 08:24 PM

The layer order might be different depending on the direction the client is facing. Not entirely sure about this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halciet

Regarding the layer draw in r31: Are we sure that helms are drawn last? I ask because of things like hooded robes. If helms are drawn after the robes, wouldn't they appear outside of the hood?

Just checking on that. I always thought that the layer used by robes was drawn last.

I'll get back to work on ClientConfig.cs tonight, and move the movementButton and actionButton definitions out to it as mentioned in the commentary.

Ocelot · 06-17-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halciet

Regarding the layer draw in r31: Are we sure that helms are drawn last? I ask because of things like hooded robes. If helms are drawn after the robes, wouldn't they appear outside of the hood?

Just checking on that. I always thought that the layer used by robes was drawn last.

I'll get back to work on ClientConfig.cs tonight, and move the movementButton and actionButton definitions out to it as mentioned in the commentary.

I think the client don't draw the helms when you have a hooded robe equiped.

Thilgon · 06-17-2009, 08:58 AM

right, it doesn't.
there's a file called stitchin.def that seems to hold all the variable about wearables (what it covers, what it is covered by, what to remove, etc.... it's an homoungous quantity of informations °_°), but i haven't been able to make it work for customs...
seems it doesn't matter if it gets changed (i tried to make a "skin" appear under everything else except the body itself, did not work)... probably, the .exe reads that file only one time, as it is compiled by the updater (can't find any other reason)...

being able to work on that file, one could play with layers and cloths to his heart desires...

Poplicola · 06-21-2009, 12:34 AM

Smjert, Halicon, and I have added a bunch of new features in the past few days. I've just uploaded fixes that allow you to buy items from Vendors. I've attached a picture with my latest update: you can now buy items from merchants!

Other updates:
You can now move items around in your inventory.
Fixed huffman decompression so that you can stay logged in indefinitely (or until you receive a packet that the client doesn't handle).
Basic support for handling player death and ressurection. (thanks sgorman07 for submitting this issue!)
Mobiles now have names - you can view them by mousing over them (it show up in the debug message, maybe support for showing names overhead soon?)
You can now mount/dismount horses and other mounts (mounted animations too slow as of yet).
Merchant frames! You can now buy items from a merchant via the merchant frame.

You can follow the daily code updates at the google code website: ultimaxna - Google Code

Poplicola · 06-23-2009, 11:43 PM

okaygo was just testing some mass spawns on his server. The client is darn solid, even when presented with a screen full of NPCs.

Xandor · 06-24-2009, 01:59 PM

The client is looking great. Keep up the good work!

405 · 06-24-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Poplicola

okaygo was just testing some mass spawns on his server. The client is darn solid, even when presented with a screen full of NPCs.

Nice job mang.

Hyru-hybrid · 06-24-2009, 03:03 PM

It'll be interesting to see how this project develops. I think an open source .NET-driven UO client is long overdue. XNA is a great platform and I can vouch that Jeff's XNA skills have vastly improved over the past 6 months.

Poplicola · 06-24-2009, 10:53 PM

As of r60, posted today, the client supports local chat (although not overhead text yet - that will wait for another day's toil.

Attached is a comparison shot, with the current revision of UltimaXNA on the left, and the legacy client on the right. UltimaXNA's terrain shading is excellent and compares very favorably with the legacy client's graphics; Jeff designed the terrain shader.

kalo · 06-25-2009, 02:39 AM

This looks fucking amazing.

Keep it up man!

Poplicola · 06-25-2009, 07:28 PM

Thanks Xandor, kalo, and 405. Features are being added on a daily basis, and the client is solid and easy to modify once you get to know the code. I'm trying to add more comments as I review code to make it more understandable.

Today, I added targeting, which you can test by logging in as a GM and using the command [tele or [props.

Since you can now chat, you can also send commands to the server. So I took advantage of [go to go sight seeing. I've attached the results. Wish you were here.

I've also updated the status frame, and I've attached a close up of the new graphics.

Xandor · 06-25-2009, 09:58 PM

It's looking really promising which is great since an open source C# based client could breath some new life into UO and RunUO. It will make it be possible to do away with some of the standard OSI interface limitations and hard coded map sizes.

I look forward to seeing how it comes along in future updates. Great work!

405 · 06-26-2009, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poplicola

Thanks Xandor, kalo, and 405. Features are being added on a daily basis, and the client is solid and easy to modify once you get to know the code. I'm trying to add more comments as I review code to make it more understandable.

Today, I added targeting, which you can test by logging in as a GM and using the command [tele or [props.

Since you can now chat, you can also send commands to the server. So I took advantage of [go to go sight seeing. I've attached the results. Wish you were here.

I've also updated the status frame, and I've attached a close up of the new graphics.

What I want to see is multiple clients within one client. Multi clienting is the future of UO. The ability for one player to easily play multiple players at one time is basically what players would enjoy to have.

**Jeff** · 06-26-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 405

What I want to see is multiple clients within one client. Multi clienting is the future of UO. The ability for one player to easily play multiple players at one time is basically what players would enjoy to have.

It's what the future of cheating in UO is...

Sythen · 06-26-2009, 03:12 PM

I'd use UO Assist for the main client and then EasyUO to multiclient to bring up several of my characters at once. The GM's never once said anything to me and I was open about it.

Anti-Basic · 06-26-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 405

What I want to see is multiple clients within one client. Multi clienting is the future of UO. The ability for one player to easily play multiple players at one time is basically what players would enjoy to have.

Glad you can speak for all UO players.

TheOutkastDev · 06-27-2009, 07:16 PM

Great work. I am very impressed.

Though this does raise the question: how much of an issue will this client raise in regards to cheating? You've basically created a framework client, and anyone with enough basic knowledge of C# could create the ultimate bot. But not to discourage you, keep up the good work!

Chase.XNA · 06-27-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOutkastDev

Great work. I am very impressed.

Though this does raise the question: how much of an issue will this client raise in regards to cheating? You've basically created a framework client, and anyone with enough basic knowledge of C# could create the ultimate bot. But not to discourage you, keep up the good work!

The framework to create the ultimate uo bot and other cheats has been around for awhile, I know I've had the ability to do pretty much whatever I want with the UO client using direct access to the packet stream for quite a few years now.

Suil Ban · 06-27-2009, 09:47 PM

Yeah, people have been cheating at UO since its inception. And this client doesn't make it revolutionarily easier, anyway. IRW, Assist, Injection, Razor, Krrios' Client, UOAI, EasyUO, Iris, and dozens of similar programs have provided plenty of room for would-be cheaters to flex their programming skills.

Trust me: those that have the ability to write the complex megacheats some are so fearful of already know how to and do cheat at this game. This client doesn't open any new doors in that department. It does, however, prove a shining example of the merits of open-source. This client has developed incredibly rapidly and will prove a useful asset to the UO community for years to come.

Xandor · 06-28-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suil Ban

This client has developed incredibly rapidly and will prove a useful asset to the UO community for years to come.

I agree. An open source client written with a fun language and framework (C# and XNA) will provide a great way for people to learn about coding games, a way for us to add some new features to the UO client for custom RunUo servers. I am enjoying see how far it already has come along in such a short time.

Keep up the great work guys!

TheOutkastDev · 06-28-2009, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chase.XNA

The framework to create the ultimate uo bot and other cheats has been around for awhile, I know I've had the ability to do pretty much whatever I want with the UO client using direct access to the packet stream for quite a few years now.

I think you missed my point. Really my concern stems from ease of use. It's much easier to take something like a open source C# client, and manipulate it into a cheat tool than it is for someone to use DLL injection or reading client memory to perform those kinds of actions.

Suil Ban · 06-29-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOutkastDev

I think you missed my point. Really my concern stems from ease of use. It's much easier to take something like a open source C# client, and manipulate it into a cheat tool than it is for someone to use DLL injection or reading client memory to perform those kinds of actions.

Krrios' Client, while not open-source, basically serves this purpose already.

okaygo · 06-29-2009, 10:20 AM

No offense, but there is cheating in every MMORPG. If Admins of servers cared more about cheating, then they would have better detection for easier to spot cheats, and not take lightly to other things they considered a cheat. This has always been the job of a GM on an MMORPG. This client wont make a big difference, but might replace PlayUO for a few people...

RadstaR · 06-29-2009, 01:19 PM

Cheating is everywhere, but if i have source code as developer, i can make any precaution

Poplicola · 07-02-2009, 09:38 PM

r65 is up, with paper doll support and GUI bugs fixed. Been busy the past few days, but I still spend an hour or two coding a day.

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Sythen Forum Novice Join Date: May 2007 Location: Somewhere In The Sunshine State! Age: 42 Posts: 678	I Used To Always Multi-Client On The EA Servers I'd use UO Assist for the main client and then EasyUO to multiclient to bring up several of my characters at once. The GM's never once said anything to me and I was open about it.

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Suil Ban Master of the Internet Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas Age: 18 Posts: 13,447	Yeah, people have been cheating at UO since its inception. And this client doesn't make it revolutionarily easier, anyway. IRW, Assist, Injection, Razor, Krrios' Client, UOAI, EasyUO, Iris, and dozens of similar programs have provided plenty of room for would-be cheaters to flex their programming skills. Trust me: those that have the ability to write the complex megacheats some are so fearful of already know how to and do cheat at this game. This client doesn't open any new doors in that department. It does, however, prove a shining example of the merits of open-source. This client has developed incredibly rapidly and will prove a useful asset to the UO community for years to come. __________________ i am awesome

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06-17-2009, 08:58 AM	#53 (permalink)
Thilgon Forum Novice Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Messina, Sicily, Italy Age: 26 Posts: 551	right, it doesn't. there's a file called stitchin.def that seems to hold all the variable about wearables (what it covers, what it is covered by, what to remove, etc.... it's an homoungous quantity of informations °_°), but i haven't been able to make it work for customs... seems it doesn't matter if it gets changed (i tried to make a "skin" appear under everything else except the body itself, did not work)... probably, the .exe reads that file only one time, as it is compiled by the updater (can't find any other reason)... being able to work on that file, one could play with layers and cloths to his heart desires...

06-24-2009, 01:59 PM	#56 (permalink)
Xandor Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 54	The client is looking great. Keep up the good work!

06-24-2009, 03:03 PM	#58 (permalink)
Hyru-hybrid Forum Novice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Honey Hole Age: 27 Posts: 307	It'll be interesting to see how this project develops. I think an open source .NET-driven UO client is long overdue. XNA is a great platform and I can vouch that Jeff's XNA skills have vastly improved over the past 6 months.

06-25-2009, 02:39 AM	#60 (permalink)
kalo Forum Novice Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canberra Age: 26 Posts: 439	This looks fucking amazing. Keep it up man!

06-25-2009, 09:58 PM	#62 (permalink)
Xandor Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 54	It's looking really promising which is great since an open source C# based client could breath some new life into UO and RunUO. It will make it be possible to do away with some of the standard OSI interface limitations and hard coded map sizes. I look forward to seeing how it comes along in future updates. Great work!

06-27-2009, 07:16 PM	#67 (permalink)
TheOutkastDev Forum Expert Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 23 Posts: 3,917	Great work. I am very impressed. Though this does raise the question: how much of an issue will this client raise in regards to cheating? You've basically created a framework client, and anyone with enough basic knowledge of C# could create the ultimate bot. But not to discourage you, keep up the good work!

06-29-2009, 10:20 AM	#73 (permalink)
okaygo Lurker Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6	No offense, but there is cheating in every MMORPG. If Admins of servers cared more about cheating, then they would have better detection for easier to spot cheats, and not take lightly to other things they considered a cheat. This has always been the job of a GM on an MMORPG. This client wont make a big difference, but might replace PlayUO for a few people...

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