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Dead Project?
- Thread starter jairon
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shrundowr
Lord
PlayUO isnt even a *nix client as you yourself learned in This Threadjairon said:
porting playuo to mono / sdl from managed directx wouldn't be much work at all.
also, if it was open, we might see some updates from the community. all playuo is doing atm is wasting a great code base =(
@Anti-Basic
all i have done in the three months since that post is review the wolfpack client, reverse krrios' client as much as possible and study sdl. to have the krrios code base would be a huge boost. his code quality is way over mine and most others abilities.
also, if it was open, we might see some updates from the community. all playuo is doing atm is wasting a great code base =(
@Anti-Basic
all i have done in the three months since that post is review the wolfpack client, reverse krrios' client as much as possible and study sdl. to have the krrios code base would be a huge boost. his code quality is way over mine and most others abilities.
jairon said:
Among other things, providing a great 3rd-party client with tons of modifications and features not found in the original client...
I do hope that you can get somewhere with either porting this client to Linux or creating an original client for Linux. It's always nice to see things I love being put on a not-so-shitty OS.
WarAngel said:
WarAngel, without krrios' code, a port won't happen. decompiled c# code is not the easiest thing to look at... I have no clue how people manage to port entire apps from nothing but asm. crazy folks out there =) I just hate the wonderful code going to waste, esp. when the linux solution for a client just plain sucks =) he must have his reasons though. it hurts. owwowwwwwww hehehe
Courageous
Wanderer
punt59 said:
Then, just post one -- just one! -- new wearable of your own design. Make it replicate the look and feel of the other wearables. No? No? No, I didn't think so.
Thing is, the combined set of art in the client required a simply enormous investment to produce. Big production line stuff. Quite difficult. That's why the community has almost nothing.
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We're not talking about creating our own art, we're talking talking about using the OSI client art for a custom built client, like PlayUO.Courageous said:Then, just post one -- just one! -- new wearable of your own design. Make it replicate the look and feel of the other wearables. No? No? No, I didn't think so.
Thing is, the combined set of art in the client required a simply enormous investment to produce. Big production line stuff. Quite difficult. That's why the community has almost nothing.
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Courageous
Wanderer
I see. Well it was ambiguous.
Without all the pre-fab art already in existence, though, the real work is the graphics themselves. Like, impossible.
As far as decoding the files, Krrios almost certainly game down with all five of his feet running. On UO file formats and the like, there's tons of information available.
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Without all the pre-fab art already in existence, though, the real work is the graphics themselves. Like, impossible.
As far as decoding the files, Krrios almost certainly game down with all five of his feet running. On UO file formats and the like, there's tons of information available.
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Hmm, I guess I wasn't clear. The statement was, coding the graphic (the code to read the mul files, and display as a client view) is the hardest aspect. Let me see, I know most map editors all ready do this for the terrain/art, and I as others have character editors that let one do it for characters and animations. I did not say, create new data, and that wasn't the topic. The topic was coding a client to read existing data. My statement was, the graphic section alone of the client, I don't feel is the hardest aspcet. I say the same for map editors, or others by the way.Rendering the display was minor, compared to the other "management" aspect of the client.Courageous said:Then, just post one -- just one! -- new wearable of your own design. Make it replicate the look and feel of the other wearables. No? No? No, I didn't think so.
Thing is, the combined set of art in the client required a simply enormous investment to produce. Big production line stuff. Quite difficult. That's why the community has almost nothing.
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So no, I dont have an example of new data, as that wasn't the topic *grin*
Courageous
Wanderer
I'm with ya. And agree. I don't really think that slicing up the mul files ought to have been that conceptually "hard". Bunches of it has been relatively well documented, from InsideUO. Labor? Who knows, one would have to ask Krrios. But I'm thinking that state management due to protocol interaction was probably some of the trickier stuff in the client.
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Zippy said:
Hey Zippy, thank you for taking the time to reply. I understand where you are coming from and it certainly pains me to think people would actually cheat on a free server =) sad stuff; however, you said it yourself, the problem is already there. Anyone with the knowledge of a cheat implementation certainly has the knowledge to decompile the IL code. Also wolfpack's client actually works with very little modification and that too could be used as a cheat.
I guess my point is, Ultima Online is without a doubt, the greatest online game of all time. We have been BLESSED with RunUO, code which I believe rivals that of OSI's real server implementation. Krrios' client has much of that quality... some of wolfpack's client is even based off of his client. It is a shame for such great software to go untouched for so long. I feel the same way about your code as well (you still update though). =)
We all know these great applications are YOUR work and we can never take that away from you. I think RunUO proves that OSS does work. We linux users are dying for a playable client. Ever try to PvP without an assistant application? =) OUCH! Also, linux aside, I feel the community could and would make improvements to the client.
Courageous
Wanderer
Well, whatever else is said and done, I think you're right about needing Play UO to be more actively developed. If FOSS doesn't appeal, perhaps Krrios could acquire a few developers. Part of the problem, of course, is that managing developers is actually a time committment.
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