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How can I abolish player use razor?
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Zippy isn't going to make Razor be detectable at least not for a very long time.
The most he will do is allow UO Gateway to allow/disallow it when Mr. Fixit release UOG 2.0 ( this feature is not promised, ie it might or might not happen at all ).
So till such time, there is no way to stop somebody from using Razor.
The most he will do is allow UO Gateway to allow/disallow it when Mr. Fixit release UOG 2.0 ( this feature is not promised, ie it might or might not happen at all ).
So till such time, there is no way to stop somebody from using Razor.
silverwolfe
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well if they are uogateway users just dont enable it on gateway. as far as injection users hmmmm personaly id like to beable to disalow injection users. razor i have no problem with but injection is breeding ground for cheats. :evil:
Because of the nature of both there is no way to stop neither.
If Mr. Fixit makes UOG detect Razor, might be possible to detect injection, not saying there is, but with him and the dev team here, perhaps only allow UOG client launches to coonect ( just an idea ) would stop injection
for sure, Razor would be supported or could not be allowed, simple grayed out option to use Razor ie use it as a plugin.
If Mr. Fixit makes UOG detect Razor, might be possible to detect injection, not saying there is, but with him and the dev team here, perhaps only allow UOG client launches to coonect ( just an idea ) would stop injection
for sure, Razor would be supported or could not be allowed, simple grayed out option to use Razor ie use it as a plugin.silverwolfe
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Phantom said:
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better "not" to use "no" double negatives sorry phantom couldnt resist edit: feel free to slam my 1000+ spelling errors
silverwolfe
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ummm because it might make a players life easier? I mean seriously if RunUO is to honestly emulate OSI then should it not make the players experience as uncomfortable as possible?
Just kidding to be honest that is why my server supports Razor i could find no reason not to support it.
Just kidding to be honest that is why my server supports Razor i could find no reason not to support it.
psz said:I'm still waiting on why to not allow Razor...
Injection I understand: Very easy to make it a cheat tool. This would be A Bad Thing(TM)
Hmm, just a question, no reason. Maybe i wanna trouble my players.
Someone report me razor cause a warning windows when recall, but i cant reduce it. Because razor is in beta test, I am afraid that maybe it make my server unstabled. I wanna allow player use it when it offical release.
silverwolfe
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well thats not a 100% true statement. if like A Cow does you run the server and client on the same machine, there is a remote possibility that razor running attached to a client that is on the server could possibly hang or cause some other process to hang. there by rendering a 98 machine helpless and force a reboot there by loosing server time (a time warp) and if this remotly possible system hang should happen to occur during a world save it could corrupt your current save file. Like i said this is an extreamly remote possiblility but i think phantom would have to agree that it is however within the realm of possibility.
aside from that phantom is correct there is no way for razor to crash the shard or zippy would not release it. trust to that.
if like A Cow does you run the server and client on the same machine, there is a remote possibility that razor running attached to a client that is on the server could possibly hang or cause some other process to hang. there by rendering a 98 machine helpless and force a reboot there by loosing server time (a time warp) and if this remotly possible system hang should happen to occur during a world save it could corrupt your current save file. Like i said this is an extreamly remote possiblility but i think phantom would have to agree that it is however within the realm of possibility.aside from that phantom is correct there is no way for razor to crash the shard or zippy would not release it. trust to that.
silverwolfe said:well thats not a 100% true statement.
aside from that phantom is correct there is no way for razor to crash the shard or zippy would not release it. trust to that.
1) 98 sucks
2) Cow's computer sucks if he can crash his shard/server like that
3) he has no players so who cares
4) did I mention I hate 98?
5)
silverwolfe
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lol
please note phantom never said that this was not possible
oh and i must note that all phantoms statments are accurate in the post just above this one
please note phantom never said that this was not possible
oh and i must note that all phantoms statments are accurate in the post just above this one
psz
Administrator
Bah. I run two clients and the server on the same machine all the time! Still get 3.5-4 second world saves!
Granted, I'm running XP Pro, not 98...
And this machine is a custom built P4 2.53 with a GB or Ram...
And I've been doing this almost as long as I could walk...
But still! ;->
So, after all is said and done, there *IS* no reason to not allow Razor.
Ok, then. I will still allow Razor ^_^
Granted, I'm running XP Pro, not 98...
And this machine is a custom built P4 2.53 with a GB or Ram...
And I've been doing this almost as long as I could walk...
But still! ;->
So, after all is said and done, there *IS* no reason to not allow Razor.
Ok, then. I will still allow Razor ^_^
You can block injection if you want to, if your server only uses the later 400x clients, injection doesn't support them. You can still wangle it so you can log in with injection using the higher clients, but it's buggy and crashes frequently.
Most of the common hacks/cheats in injection can be stopped serverside anyway. Even on a pol server. dye, auto-loot etc
Most of the common hacks/cheats in injection can be stopped serverside anyway. Even on a pol server. dye, auto-loot etc
Zippy
Razor Creator
It would of course be possible (and pretty easy) to detect injection using a client side application, but you'd have to convince your players to run it.
At this time there are no plans to allow Razor to be detected by RunUO or any other emulator. I will of course not stop krrios from adding anything to RunUO which could detect razor, but its kind of a conflict of interest so I surely wont be adding anything to RunUO or Razor to make this possible.
At this time there are no plans to allow Razor to be detected by RunUO or any other emulator. I will of course not stop krrios from adding anything to RunUO which could detect razor, but its kind of a conflict of interest so I surely wont be adding anything to RunUO or Razor to make this possible.
Sounds a bit like paranoia to me. Suggestion, download Razor yourself, and see what it does before you start asking questions like this. Dont see how this could be used to exploit/crash a server, altho I was able to crash my client with it once (dont recall how I did it)
Razor is a very good helper app, which makes things much easier for players, such as one key potion and banage use (WITHOUT having to set an item every time) Now if only it had all the functionality of UOA, it would be uber.
Razor is a very good helper app, which makes things much easier for players, such as one key potion and banage use (WITHOUT having to set an item every time) Now if only it had all the functionality of UOA, it would be uber.
stradicaster
Wanderer
psz said:I'm still waiting on why to not allow Razor...
Injection I understand: Very easy to make it a cheat tool. This would be A Bad Thing(TM)
I'm also wishing to stop my shard users from using razor, simply because it makes PVP easier, drinking potions, auto disarming, bandage self without having the problem with drinking potions (LastObject makes you click the potion and then the bandages, making it harder). Razor makes PVP much more easier and thats why in our shard we dont want our users to use it. But sadly there is no way to detect it... in the mean time we will just have to check player by player what are they doing.
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r00ted
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so you disable Razor for them, and they just use easyuo instead.