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You Decide 2004!
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DontdroptheSOAD wrote:
Hmmm..reaally? I mean they wouldn't have any reason to lie, now would they?
In fact, there's a whole lot of things about 911 that are perfectly explainable, aren't there?
Here a bit from The coincidence Theorists guide to 911
That George Bush's brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines means nothing more than you must admit those Bush boys have done alright for themselves.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm
That George Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama's brother Salem and reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz is just one of those things - one of those crazy things.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/10...orge_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b.html
That Osama bin Laden is known to have been an asset of US foreign policy in no way implies he still is .
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-11-04/discussion.cgi.28.html
That al Qaeda was active in the Balkan conflict, fighting on the same side as the US as recently as 1999, while the US protected its cells, is merely one of history's little aberrations .
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/VIN204A.html
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MNA110A.html
That in the weeks before 9/11, FBI agent Colleen Rowley found her investigation of Zacarias Moussaoui so perversely thwarted that her colleagues joked that bin Laden had a mole at the FBI, proves the stress-relieving virtue of humour in the workplace.
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html
That Dave Frasca of the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit received a promotion after quashing multiple, urgent requests for investigations into al Qaeda assets training at flight schools in the summer of 2001 does appear on the surface odd, but undoubtedly there's a good reason for it, quite possibly classified.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/02/43525.shtml
That over the summer of 2001 Washington received many urgent, senior-level warnings from foreign intelligence agencies and governments - including those of Germany, France, Great Britain, Russia, Egypt, Israel, Morocco, Afghanistan and others - of impending terror attacks using hijacked aircraft and did nothing, demonstrates the pressing need for a new Intelligence Czar.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=331115
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0222/ridgeway2.php
http://www.sundayherald.com/24822
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$52PMOXQAADW5PQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2001/09/16/wcia16.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/09/16/ixhome
http://www.iht.com/articles/58269.html
That George Bush had plans to invade Afghanistan on his desk before 9/11 demonstrates only the value of being prepared .
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-03-23-war-analysis_x.htm
Mahmood Ahmed , chief of Pakistan's ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn't read anything about him in the official report.
http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes...?catkey=-2128936835&art_id=1454238160&sType=1
That Porter Goss met with Ahmed the morning of September 11 in his capacity as Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has no bearing whatsoever upon his recent selection by the White House to head the Central Intelligence Agency.
http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2004/08/76366.php
That Goss's congressional seat encompasses the 9/11 hijackers' Florida base of operation, including their flight schools, is precisely the kind of meaningless factoid a conspiracy theorist would bring up.
http://clerk.house.gov/members/electionInfo/Florida_14th/index.html
It's true that George HW Bush and Dick Cheney spent the evening of September 10 alone in the Oval Office, but what's wrong with old colleagues catching up? And it's true that George HW Bush and Shafig bin Laden, Osama's brother, spent the morning of September 11 together at a board meeting of the Carlyle Group, but the bin Ladens are a big family
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,738196,00.html
That heightened security for the World Trade Centre was lifted immediately prior to the attacks illustrates that it always happens when you least expect it.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,1255660.story
That none of the flight data recorders were said to be recoverable even though they were located in the tail sections, and that until 9/11, no solid-state recorder in a catastrophic crash had been unrecoverable, shows how there's a first time for everything.
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/flightdata.html
And thats not even HALF of it.
But hey, I'm a moron, right? What would I know?
But at least I'm a moron who can back up his statements with evidence. Not someone who goes off half cocked believing every little thing the Bush Propaganda machine places into the so called "liberal" press.
Anyway, the answer to this thread is: I will not vote for Bush. A vote for Bush in my opinion is a vote of the continued invasions of foriegn countries. Next up?
Iran, and/or Korea.
What's that? Don't believe me? Well read this again:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
Its like reading Mein Kampf as Hitler was rising to power. ( thanks Psz for giving us this link in the first place. )
The Plan for a new America calls for us to fight and win three ground wars at once. We're only in two right now.
If Bush wins and these plans go ahead, then the draft will need to be reinstated. As the next war will likely last several years possibly even a decade or longer, my children are at risk to go fight in wars just to line the pockets of billionaires.
If Bush wins, he will continue to keep his head in the sand when it comes to the economy and claim everything is getting better for the next four years, when clearly it is not. He claims to have created 1.6 million jobs in the last year. Though he fails to mention that 75% of those jobs are government jobs. This means Bush is creating a larger government, which is in direct contradiction to the ideals of the Republican party of smaller federal government. And how are these people being paid? Through deficit spending. So much for social security.
So who do I vote for?
Well, I vote for Kerry.
But does anyone REALLY believe he will change things?
Me either. But I know what direction Bush is sure to go. And that;s just plain scary. How anyone when faced with the facts can defend him is beyond me, but hey, it's America, and you're entitled to your opinion. Uninformed or not, you ARE entitled.
Hmmm..reaally? I mean they wouldn't have any reason to lie, now would they?
In fact, there's a whole lot of things about 911 that are perfectly explainable, aren't there?
Here a bit from The coincidence Theorists guide to 911
That George Bush's brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Centre, Dulles Airport and United Airlines means nothing more than you must admit those Bush boys have done alright for themselves.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm
That George Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama's brother Salem and reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz is just one of those things - one of those crazy things.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/10...orge_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b.html
That Osama bin Laden is known to have been an asset of US foreign policy in no way implies he still is .
http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-11-04/discussion.cgi.28.html
That al Qaeda was active in the Balkan conflict, fighting on the same side as the US as recently as 1999, while the US protected its cells, is merely one of history's little aberrations .
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/VIN204A.html
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MNA110A.html
That in the weeks before 9/11, FBI agent Colleen Rowley found her investigation of Zacarias Moussaoui so perversely thwarted that her colleagues joked that bin Laden had a mole at the FBI, proves the stress-relieving virtue of humour in the workplace.
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html
That Dave Frasca of the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit received a promotion after quashing multiple, urgent requests for investigations into al Qaeda assets training at flight schools in the summer of 2001 does appear on the surface odd, but undoubtedly there's a good reason for it, quite possibly classified.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/02/43525.shtml
That over the summer of 2001 Washington received many urgent, senior-level warnings from foreign intelligence agencies and governments - including those of Germany, France, Great Britain, Russia, Egypt, Israel, Morocco, Afghanistan and others - of impending terror attacks using hijacked aircraft and did nothing, demonstrates the pressing need for a new Intelligence Czar.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/story.jsp?story=331115
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0222/ridgeway2.php
http://www.sundayherald.com/24822
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$52PMOXQAADW5PQFIQMGSFFOAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2001/09/16/wcia16.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/09/16/ixhome
http://www.iht.com/articles/58269.html
That George Bush had plans to invade Afghanistan on his desk before 9/11 demonstrates only the value of being prepared .
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-03-23-war-analysis_x.htm
Mahmood Ahmed , chief of Pakistan's ISI, must not have authorized an al Qaeda payment of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta days before the attacks, and was not meeting with senior Washington officials over the week of 9/11, because I didn't read anything about him in the official report.
http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes...?catkey=-2128936835&art_id=1454238160&sType=1
That Porter Goss met with Ahmed the morning of September 11 in his capacity as Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has no bearing whatsoever upon his recent selection by the White House to head the Central Intelligence Agency.
http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2004/08/76366.php
That Goss's congressional seat encompasses the 9/11 hijackers' Florida base of operation, including their flight schools, is precisely the kind of meaningless factoid a conspiracy theorist would bring up.
http://clerk.house.gov/members/electionInfo/Florida_14th/index.html
It's true that George HW Bush and Dick Cheney spent the evening of September 10 alone in the Oval Office, but what's wrong with old colleagues catching up? And it's true that George HW Bush and Shafig bin Laden, Osama's brother, spent the morning of September 11 together at a board meeting of the Carlyle Group, but the bin Ladens are a big family
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,738196,00.html
That heightened security for the World Trade Centre was lifted immediately prior to the attacks illustrates that it always happens when you least expect it.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-nyaler122362178sep12,0,1255660.story
That none of the flight data recorders were said to be recoverable even though they were located in the tail sections, and that until 9/11, no solid-state recorder in a catastrophic crash had been unrecoverable, shows how there's a first time for everything.
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/flightdata.html
And thats not even HALF of it.
But hey, I'm a moron, right? What would I know?
But at least I'm a moron who can back up his statements with evidence. Not someone who goes off half cocked believing every little thing the Bush Propaganda machine places into the so called "liberal" press.
Anyway, the answer to this thread is: I will not vote for Bush. A vote for Bush in my opinion is a vote of the continued invasions of foriegn countries. Next up?
Iran, and/or Korea.
What's that? Don't believe me? Well read this again:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
Its like reading Mein Kampf as Hitler was rising to power. ( thanks Psz for giving us this link in the first place. )
The Plan for a new America calls for us to fight and win three ground wars at once. We're only in two right now.
If Bush wins and these plans go ahead, then the draft will need to be reinstated. As the next war will likely last several years possibly even a decade or longer, my children are at risk to go fight in wars just to line the pockets of billionaires.
If Bush wins, he will continue to keep his head in the sand when it comes to the economy and claim everything is getting better for the next four years, when clearly it is not. He claims to have created 1.6 million jobs in the last year. Though he fails to mention that 75% of those jobs are government jobs. This means Bush is creating a larger government, which is in direct contradiction to the ideals of the Republican party of smaller federal government. And how are these people being paid? Through deficit spending. So much for social security.
So who do I vote for?
Well, I vote for Kerry.
But does anyone REALLY believe he will change things?
Me either. But I know what direction Bush is sure to go. And that;s just plain scary. How anyone when faced with the facts can defend him is beyond me, but hey, it's America, and you're entitled to your opinion. Uninformed or not, you ARE entitled.
DraconisDesBois
Sorceror
psz said:
The congress and senate have said alot of things wont happened and it is all a bunch of BS just to keep control here in the states. I am abought 70% sure it wont happen but it doesn't matter, the fact of it happening is enough to convince me.
psz
Administrator
You didn't read what I said in the parenthasese:
If they voted for a draft, MOST of them would be voted out of office. And they know this *QUITE* well.
It would take something major for them to even risk thier jobs on that. 9/11 wasn't even CLOSE enough to do it, and Iraq certainly isn't either.
However, this thread was dead weeks before the election :-P
If they voted for a draft, MOST of them would be voted out of office. And they know this *QUITE* well.
It would take something major for them to even risk thier jobs on that. 9/11 wasn't even CLOSE enough to do it, and Iraq certainly isn't either.
However, this thread was dead weeks before the election :-P
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