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Lord_Greywolf;750798 said:
Manga != Anime rated above R.
The closest thing to compare manga to is comics in the US
The problem isn't just the censorship (though what they did to one piece, DBZ and naruto, was terrible) it is also the fact that they always bring in the same type of anime (dbz, naruto, bleach, etc). I was shocked when I saw Gits on AS.
The tenticle stuff is usually hentai (which is generally further categorized into various fetishes) The tenticle stuff usually gets its own category. Note that the word hentai itself only refers directly to pornography when used in the US. In Japan the word just means pervert.
You should also note that things like older men groping young girls, and tentacles as well, are all due to the fact that the Japanese are more sexually open. Things like that happen when you don't have people like Constantine telling an empire that sex is evil and that the human body is dirty
shrundowr
Lord
bzk90;750867 said:You should also note that things like older men groping young girls, and tentacles as well, are all due to the fact that the Japanese are more sexually open. Things like that happen when you don't have people like Constantine telling an empire that sex is evil and that the human body is dirty
Pretty sure that child porn (even if simulated) is a little messed up, regardless of how "open" you are about sex.
shrundowr
Lord
bzk90;750871 said:
I already know what it is. I also know that the "adult" isn't always the perpetrator. I read once that bunch of high school girls were arrested for selling their used panties to old perverts (which was made illegal as it was a big problem over there at one point) I forgot the money value that they made, but one of them made enough from doing it to buy a car. While in this case, the girls weren't victims at all, it only encourages that kinda shit in the men.
And I could care less what they consider it, it is what it is.
And who defines what something is? Of course it must be the sexually insecure, censoring, all mighty west. With all our knowledge and fortitude - surely we are the only ones worthy to define what is good and bad, right and wrong.
It has nothing to do with "what" it is and everything to do with just being. You can't judge other cultural phenomena based on your own morality.
It has nothing to do with "what" it is and everything to do with just being. You can't judge other cultural phenomena based on your own morality.
shrundowr
Lord
So if an eastern country thought it was ok torture and murder innocent people in their sleep, and I thought it was wrong, it'd just be my western imperialism speaking about their innocent cultural differences?
EDIT: what about the fact that all of them seem to think we are wrong about waterboarding and shit that we do? Are we right in that circumstance?
Has nothing to do with East v. West. Its just Right v. Wrong. You don't fuck, grope or film yourself fucking or groping children. </story>
EDIT: what about the fact that all of them seem to think we are wrong about waterboarding and shit that we do? Are we right in that circumstance?
Has nothing to do with East v. West. Its just Right v. Wrong. You don't fuck, grope or film yourself fucking or groping children. </story>
Coming up with extreme examples that are far off topic does not make for a good debate; however, I will play along for now.
You said that you don't care what they consider it and that the only thing that matters is what it actually "is." You call it perverted but the girls doing it call it "an easy way to make money."
Why is your definition any more right than their definition? That's rhetorical btw, the answer is ITS NOT.
You say that torture by waterboarding (or should I say "advanced interrogation techniques"?) is wrong. The government says it is the only way to prevent certain acts of terror. This is irrelvent to the argument because in America the constitution gurantees certain rights to humans, regardless of citizenship or criminal status. Also, on the global level we have things like the Geneva Code.
Torture is illegal and therefore it should not be used. If at some point torture is needed, the law must be changed in a manner that is within the bounds of the law.
I don't know whether enjo kosai is illegal or not but for the sake of the argument I will assume it isn't (it really doesn't matter because the logic works regardless of the legal status)
Enjo kosai is legal and therefore it doesn't matter whether you think it is right or wrong. If you don't like it then you should try to change it while remaining within the bounds of the law.
Moral judgement has no place in deciding right and wrong except in the process of legislation. Once something has been deemed legal or illegal, the only thing that matters is understanding the "why."
You said that you don't care what they consider it and that the only thing that matters is what it actually "is." You call it perverted but the girls doing it call it "an easy way to make money."
Why is your definition any more right than their definition? That's rhetorical btw, the answer is ITS NOT.
You say that torture by waterboarding (or should I say "advanced interrogation techniques"?) is wrong. The government says it is the only way to prevent certain acts of terror. This is irrelvent to the argument because in America the constitution gurantees certain rights to humans, regardless of citizenship or criminal status. Also, on the global level we have things like the Geneva Code.
Torture is illegal and therefore it should not be used. If at some point torture is needed, the law must be changed in a manner that is within the bounds of the law.
I don't know whether enjo kosai is illegal or not but for the sake of the argument I will assume it isn't (it really doesn't matter because the logic works regardless of the legal status)
Enjo kosai is legal and therefore it doesn't matter whether you think it is right or wrong. If you don't like it then you should try to change it while remaining within the bounds of the law.
Moral judgement has no place in deciding right and wrong except in the process of legislation. Once something has been deemed legal or illegal, the only thing that matters is understanding the "why."
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lmao, i just decided to throw out a random hanimeRadwen;751024 said:
It's not really my fav.
Zero no Tsukaima is. >.>
shrundowr
Lord
No they aren't. You are arguing that right and wrong are decided by consensus, and if the majority of a place think something is right, they should be allowed to do it. I just used separate examples.bzk90;750885 said:
No. SOME of the girls did. There are always cases of 2 abusers rather than a victim and an abuser. And they were arrested. And this wasn't child porn OR Enjo Kosai, it was selling their used panties. (And I'm the one taking it off topic?)
who is they? the very small minority of people in Japan who think that child molestation and pornography is right? (just because something is legal doesn't mean it reflects the will of the people, even in a representative democracy, far from the case)
That's called rewriting the constitution or finding a loophole in it. Torture to gain information is an entirely flawed concept, go watch Reservoir Dogs. Whether or not it should be used for punishment of very severe actions is an entirely different matter. (I'm actually FOR That)
you missed a spot.
Enjo kosai is only legal because of the age of consent, and the fact that an actual "Date" must take place. We have the same loophole here (outside of NV) for adult prostitution, "Escorts" and it doesn't work either. D.C. Madam anyone? All one has to prove is that no actual 'date' occurred, and both the girl and client are in legal trouble. Also, fyi, as of 2003, child porn is defined, and illegal in Japan too. So everything regarding THAT just went out of your window.
Not really. You can use moral judgement in any way you want, including to look down upon others.
I still want to know how I, The guy who wants to fuck succubi, am sexually close minded.
Midnightdragon
Wanderer
1.Samurai Champloo
2.Cowboy Bebop
3.Rurouni Kenshin
4.Kikaider
5.Trigun
And for the record Inuyasha started out great but after a while you realize it will never end and it just becomes overrated garbage.
2.Cowboy Bebop
3.Rurouni Kenshin
4.Kikaider
5.Trigun
And for the record Inuyasha started out great but after a while you realize it will never end and it just becomes overrated garbage.