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Personaly I always loved watching religious debates, I always thought it kinda akin to a pissing contest. However unlike a pissing contest everyone is pissing in a different direction and claiming to have won. In the end all you got is a bunch of people walking away smuggly soaked in eachother's piss.
Gosh people if you belive in something, belive in it. However don't prove your own insecurity in your beliefs by trying to convince other people that they are wrong for beliving what they do. This goes both ways.
I am a Christian and I am secure enough in myself to not need to justify my beliefs to anyone.
Cheers,
Nick
Gosh people if you belive in something, belive in it. However don't prove your own insecurity in your beliefs by trying to convince other people that they are wrong for beliving what they do. This goes both ways.
I am a Christian and I am secure enough in myself to not need to justify my beliefs to anyone.
Cheers,
Nick
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I agree ratfink.
Also, explaining why a religion is false is very sick.
Everybody should believe in something. But you should not try to falsify others' beliefs just because you think it's wrong.
Also, explaining why a religion is false is very sick.
Everybody should believe in something. But you should not try to falsify others' beliefs just because you think it's wrong.
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LOL. Yes it was written by man. It was written by a bunch of lunatics on drugs.Goku said:
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Wow, I see some one that needs to go do some research on the bible because it's far from perfect. The bible has thousands of mistakes and thousands of contradictions and is why it can't be use to prove jack. Here's a really huge misconception about the bible. People seem to think the literature predates the king James version of the bible and these mistakes occurred in each translation of the bible up to the kings james version when in fact the king james version is the translation from the dead sea scrolls. Before the king james version of the bible there was no bible. There was only the scrolls. So these mistakes and contradictions were translated right out of the dead sea scrolls strait into the king james version of the bible.Goku said:
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Puleasse. If you want some hardcore discussion on this topic. Roll with the big boys:
http://www.infidelguy.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=8
Many more intelligent people.
http://www.infidelguy.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=8
Many more intelligent people.
I'm sorry, but I will argue my religion until the day that I die. Its just my strong beliefe.
What I want to know is, how do atheist people feel everyday believing that when they die that thats it. You're gone for good.
Well, I can't live like that. And I am convinced enough that God does exist and that he offers a place for eternal life for everyone who lives a sinless life.
What I want to know is, how do atheist people feel everyday believing that when they die that thats it. You're gone for good.
Well, I can't live like that. And I am convinced enough that God does exist and that he offers a place for eternal life for everyone who lives a sinless life.
L33T said:
Um that is just plain wrong:
500 BC: Completion of All Original Hebrew Manuscripts which make Up The 39 Books of the Old Testament.
200 BC: Completion of the Septuagint Greek Manuscripts which contain The 39 Old Testament Books AND 14 Apocrypha Books.
1st Century AD: Completion of All Original Greek Manuscripts which make Up The 27 Books of the New Testament.
390 AD: Jerome's Latin Vulgate Manuscripts Produced which contain All 80 Books (39 Old Test. + 14 Apocrypha + 27 New Test).
500 AD: Scriptures have been Translated into Over 500 Languages.
600 AD: LATIN was the Only Language Allowed for Scripture.
995 AD: Anglo-Saxon (Early Roots of English Language) Translations of The New Testament Produced.
1384 AD: Wycliffe is the First Person to Produce a (Hand-Written) manuscript Copy of the Complete Bible; All 80 Books.
1455 AD: Gutenberg Invents the Printing Press; Books May Now be mass-Produced Instead of Individually Hand-Written. The First Book Ever Printed is Gutenberg's Bible in Latin.
1516 AD: Erasmus Produces a Greek/Latin Parallel New Testament.
1522 AD: Martin Luther's German New Testament.
1525 AD: William Tyndale's New Testament; The First New Testament to be Printed in the English Language.
1535 AD: Myles Coverdale's Bible; The First Complete Bible to be printed in the English Language (80 Books: O.T. & N.T. & Apocrypha).
1537 AD: Matthews Bible; The Second Complete Bible to be Printed in English. Done by John "Thomas Matthew" Rogers (80 Books).
1539 AD: The "Great Bible" Printed; The First English Language Bible to be Authorized for Public Use (80 Books).
1560 AD: The Geneva Bible Printed; The First English Language Bible to Add Numbered Verses to Each Chapter (80 Books).
1568 AD: The Bishops Bible Printed; The Bible of which the King James was a Revision (80 Books).
1609 AD: The Douay Old Testament is added to the Rheimes New Testament (of 1582) Making the First Complete English Catholic Bible; Translated from the Latin Vulgate (80 Books).
1611 AD: The King James Bible Printed; Originally with All 80 Books. The Apocrypha was Officially Removed in 1885 Leaving Only 66 Books.
1782 AD: Robert Aitken's Bible; The First English Language Bible (a King James Version without Apocrypha) to be Printed in America.
1791 AD: Isaac Collins and Isaiah Thomas Respectively Produce the First Family Bible and First Illustrated Bible Printed in America. Both were King James Versions, with All 80 Books.
1808 AD: Jane Aitken's Bible (Daughter of Robert Aitken); The First Bible to be Printed by a Woman.
1833 AD: Noah Webster's Bible; After Producing his Famous Dictionary, Webster Printed his Own Revision of the King James Bible.
1841 AD: English Hexapla New Testament; an Early Textual Comparison showing the Greek and 6 Famous English Translations in Parallel Columns.
1846 AD: The Illuminated Bible; The Most Lavishly Illustrated Bible printed in America. A King James Version, with All 80 Books.
1885 AD: The "Revised Version" Bible; The First Major English Revision of the King James Bible.
1901 AD: The "American Standard Version"; The First Major American Revision of the King James Bible.
1971 AD: The "New American Standard Bible" (NASB) is Published as a "Modern and Accurate Word for Word English Translation" of the Bible.
1973 AD: The "New International Version" (NIV) is Published as a "Modern and Accurate Phrase for Phrase English Translation" of the Bible.
1982 AD: The "New King James Version" (NKJV) is Published as a "Modern English Version Maintaining the Original Style of the King James."
http://www.greatsite.com/engbibhis/
DontdroptheSOAD said:
hahaha...that is the best thing I've heard in a looong time....^_^
Goku said:
Whoaaaaaa....calm down. It's my belief, not to worry, I wasn't trying to falsify your religion (is that the right word to use?). *ahem* sorry. Um, anyway, on another note, here's some food for thought (if you guys aren't already tired to death of this debate):
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/05/lewis.htm
And there was something that someone said once, I don't know if it was someone on this forum (forgive my plagarism)...anyway, it went something like this:
every religion says that if you don't believe in their god, you'll go to hell(or the equivalent). So, in essence, we are all going to hell, and there is no heaven.
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L33T said:
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Goku said:
Its a very harsh religion that condemns anybody to 'hell' purely for disbelief... i myself live life just to see people happy, i dont pertain to be a part of any specific religion but it makes me happy to know i'm helping. Some say the divine is a macrocosm of our inner selves, so if i feel good then the gods are smiling. Now why should i go to 'hell' just because you think I should ?
Sorry, Religion is always personal.
About Hell:
I don't believe in Hell, so how can I go to a place I don't believe in?
About Christianity:
It's a structured religion. It is strong and continues to be. Christianity will never 'fall' or die or anything like that (unless we all die).
About Religion:
I used to believe religion was a crutch, but that has changed somewhat. Some people need religion. Just as some people need certain drugs to survive (I'm talking like heart-condition drugs, not like cocaine or that). Nothing to be argued about there.
About Church:
Church, though, is a crutch. If you require someone to speak for you to your "God" and feel the need to gather in a place every week to compare clothing and amount of money one can contribute to said church, then there may be a problem. Church as a fellowship is good. Church as a business, however, is not.
And by the way, I'm not even sure what I am. I don't go to church. I don't believe in any particular God or religion. But at least I am open minded and allow others to believe what they wish to believe. My opinions and beliefs are my own, as are everyone else's.
I don't believe in Hell, so how can I go to a place I don't believe in?
About Christianity:
It's a structured religion. It is strong and continues to be. Christianity will never 'fall' or die or anything like that (unless we all die).
About Religion:
I used to believe religion was a crutch, but that has changed somewhat. Some people need religion. Just as some people need certain drugs to survive (I'm talking like heart-condition drugs, not like cocaine or that). Nothing to be argued about there.
About Church:
Church, though, is a crutch. If you require someone to speak for you to your "God" and feel the need to gather in a place every week to compare clothing and amount of money one can contribute to said church, then there may be a problem. Church as a fellowship is good. Church as a business, however, is not.
And by the way, I'm not even sure what I am. I don't go to church. I don't believe in any particular God or religion. But at least I am open minded and allow others to believe what they wish to believe. My opinions and beliefs are my own, as are everyone else's.
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