Skills Needed to Make a Game?

[Jeff]

No, he's not.

....it takes like 5 clicks to add a dependency installer....

 

[Vorspire]

And if you use a custom installer creator, then it probably takes 3 clicks in a wizard...

 

[Vorspire]

25mb is nothing these days, unless you're a poor 56k dial-up user.. i see no problem. Framework updates are mandatory now and a lot of programs run on the Framework platform.

 

[Jeff]

Even if it took one click, it'd still be a turn-off for both developers and end users. I know I wouldn't want to install 25MB in frameworks to play a Bejeweled clone.

its not 25mb its 2mb

 

[Kitchen_]

its not 25mb its 2mb

That's assuming they have .NET and DirectX.

 

[skull77]

wow arent you encouraging... way to be a real downer

Well what I said is true. I mean there are some decent engines out there like bigworld and heroengine, but they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Also, the reason you got denied because you did not have a bachelors is because they assumed you knew next to nothing about programming. Having a bachelor shows you have knowledge of some of the finer points of the programming language you studied, as well as things you may never come across from self-taught programming.

 

[shrundowr]

Are you speaking from experience or speculation?

(NSIS)

; Post Install Tasks
Section -Prerequisites
  SetOutPath $INSTDIR\redist
  MessageBox MB_YESNO "Install XNA?" /SD IDYES IDNO endXNA
    File "..\redist\xnafx20_redist.msi"
    ExecWait '"msiexec" /i "$INSTDIR\redist\xnafx20_redist.msi"
    Goto endXNA
  endXNA:
SectionEnd

very short google search to find the example, a few seconds to replace the example with xna, so easy a caveman can do it. Technically more than 2 seconds, but if I had a bunch of games to distribute that needed it, I could just copy and paste for each one, which would take, by my estimation, exactly 2 seconds. I win.

Soooo painful tbchwy. I might just start making Installers for all of Jeff's projects just because I like "pain".

It's not a lot of space, but it's a lot of bulk when you're downloading a 3MB game. I can't think of anything I use regularly that isn't gaming-related or a program I've written myself that utilizes the .NET framework.

this isn't 1995, its not a lot space or bandwidth at all, you're worse than kiwi and zipping his 4 meg snes roms.

That's assuming they have .NET and DirectX.

both are also small, and both are included in windows update (hell SP2 has .NET 1.0 installed already)

 

[Jeff]

Well what I said is true. I mean there are some decent engines out there like bigworld and heroengine, but they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Wrong there are a ton of games coming out on xbox arcade written by everyday joes like you and I and they cost nearly nothing to make, xna has made this easy to do and possible for anyone.

Also, the reason you got denied because you did not have a bachelors is because they assumed you knew next to nothing about programming. Having a bachelor shows you have knowledge of some of the finer points of the programming language you studied, as well as things you may never come across from self-taught programming.

Isnt that what i said..... ?

 

[Vorspire]

The best-selling X-Box 360 game is Geometry Wars, with over 200 million purchases through X-Box Live arcade.. It's extremely simple, but it hit the market like Space Invaders.

 

[Jeff]

The best-selling X-Box 360 game is Geometry Wars, with over 200 million purchases through X-Box Live arcade.. It's extremely simple, but it hit the market like Space Invaders.

That game is incredibly hard to re-create tbh, the design, concept, gameplay are all easy, but the techniques they used are incredible.

 

[Vorspire]

That game is incredibly hard to re-create tbh, the design, concept, gameplay are all easy, but the techniques they used are incredible.

I totally agree, someone ripped it and ported it to PC and modified it a little so that it actually shows an arrow in the direction you are going to shoot lol.

 

[Jeff]

I totally agree, someone ripped it and ported it to PC and modified it a little so that it actually shows an arrow in the direction you are going to shoot lol.

That was made by the same company.

 

[shrundowr]

Galactisys tbchwy

 

[Vorspire]

That was made by the same company.

Wahey, that's news to me, kudós to them tbh.

 

[Johabius]

Don't forget the orangutan. All programmers should be required to own or at least rent an orangutan while they program.

I guess an orangutan isn't really a skill, but you still should have one around. Orangutans make everything more interesting.

 

[Radwen]

You wear that mask all day don't you ...

 

[arul]

And if managed environment doesn't make your jollies going(dozens of reason not to), try Irrlicht (Irrlicht Engine - A free open source 3d engine).

 

[Johabius]

You wear that mask all day don't you ...

It does wonders for keeping away solicitors and Jehova's Witnesses.