Smoking Banned in State of Illinois

[Courageous]

Your assumption that I'm a democrat amuses me. I'm more conservative than people give me credit for.

Why do you think I assume that?

Slavery was pretty popular a while back, too.

Thankfully, it now no longer is, eh?

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[WarAngel]

Comparing a smoking ban to slavery is nearly offensive.

 

[Johabius]

Comparing a smoking ban to slavery is nearly offensive.

I'm merely pointing out that what is popular, isn't always what is right.

 

[Johabius]

Thankfully, it now no longer is, eh?

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Exactly, and hopefully someday We the People will stop wanting the government to hold our hands and tell us what is right and what is wrong.

 

[TurboABA]

Lol, fuck Illinois never plan to visit that state now..
Fuck America if Ron Paul doesn't get elected, were all destined for judgment day.

 

[Johabius]

Lol, fuck Illinois never plan to visit that state now..
Fuck America if Ron Paul doesn't get elected, were all destined for judgment day.

Judgment day pre-supposes a belief in god.

Now, I don't really mind if individual businesses decide to restrict smoking on their property. I'll either go elsewhere to conduct my business, or I will refrain from smoking while I'm on their property.

A Nanny State is not what we need in America.

 

[Courageous]

Exactly, and hopefully someday We the People will stop wanting the government to hold our hands and tell us what is right and what is wrong.

Johabius. I agree with you.

But it's more like the majority wanting to tell the minority what is right or wrong. Don't blame the mysterious government, it itself is just people, representing other people.

Everyone always wants it to be simple. It's really not so simple.

The best definition of politics I ever heard was "who get's what". Unfortunately, it's oh so very true. Politics is this big process where everyone comes to the table with a personal agenda. The system then comes to a sort of equilibrium state in response to that.

I remember another amusing quip that has some merit. "Don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the fellow behind the tree."

Too many people want something, but don't want to put up for it.

Anyway, my take on all this is to defund government. The reality of any government is that it can only do what it has budget to do. The other thing you can bank your life on is that the more budget there is, the more likely some bureaucrat will do something with that budget.

It's unfortunate that we've gotten around to legally enforcing politeness. Unfortunately, that's a good deal of what all this smoking legislation is about.

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[Johabius]

Johabius. I agree with you.

*has heart attack*

the majority wanting to tell the minority what is right or wrong. Don't blame the mysterious government, it itself is just people, representing other people.

Except in the case of rampant political correctness, but that's an entirely different can of worms.

It's unfortunate that we've gotten around to legally enforcing politeness. Unfortunately, that's a good deal of what all this smoking legislation is about.

It's more than unfortunate, it's really sad. When you have to have legislation in order for people to be polite to one another, something seriously went wrong somewhere.

 

[Courageous]

It's more than unfortunate, it's really sad. When you have to have legislation in order for people to be polite to one another, something seriously went wrong somewhere.

Seriously. Sometimes I think this is because it's no longer okay to give someone a vigorous ass kicking. It used to be that certain forms of verbal provocation were considered to be "fighting words". What happened to that? I'm not at all convinced changing that made us more civilized.

Speaking of this, you know, it's always been more allowable for a girl to be rude to a man than a man can be to a man. A long time ago, a girl said something very rude to me. She was with a guy. Her "backup," I guess. I looked at him, and said: "if you can't control her, I'm going to kick your ass RIGHT NOW!"

He grabbed her elbow and pulled her out of there just like that.

Funny stuff.

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[bzk90]

The reality of any government is that it can only do what it has budget to do.

tell that to the deficit and the Chinese people who intend to collect on it

 

[Courageous]

tell that to the deficit and the Chinese people who intend to collect on it

Borrowing generates a budget, you ninny.

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[bzk90]

I am a novice still in economics;if that comment was serious than please elaborate

 

[WarAngel]

You can only spend the money you have. If you borrow money, that means you have more money. You may owe someone because of it, but you now have a budget.

 

[WarAngel]

Except in the case of rampant political correctness, but that's an entirely different can of worms.

Hardly. People seem to feel that political correctness is something propagated by some Agency of Niceness. You are free to use the N-word or call a woman a bitch or whatever you feel like, but you have to be willing to accept the social ramifications from other people that action will entail. An excellent example of this was when I called Rosetta a slut. I got reamed for it, and not by some governmental entity forcing political correctness on me, but by other people on the forums.

 

[TheOutkastDev]

Hardly. People seem to feel that political correctness is something propagated by some Agency of Niceness. You are free to use the N-word or call a woman a bitch or whatever you feel like, but you have to be willing to accept the social ramifications from other people that action will entail. An excellent example of this was when I called Rosetta a slut. I got reamed for it, and not by some governmental entity forcing political correctness on me, but by other people on the forums.

Yes. Bingo.

 

[Rosetta]

Hardly. People seem to feel that political correctness is something propagated by some Agency of Niceness. You are free to use the N-word or call a woman a bitch or whatever you feel like, but you have to be willing to accept the social ramifications from other people that action will entail. An excellent example of this was when I called Rosetta a slut. I got reamed for it, and not by some governmental entity forcing political correctness on me, but by other people on the forums.

Your right about the social ramifications point.

On the other hand we both got all the aggressions out of the way and found peace in the end so all is well that ends well.

 

[Courageous]

Hardly. People seem to feel that political correctness is something propagated by some Agency of Niceness. You are free to use the N-word or call a woman a bitch or whatever you feel like, but you have to be willing to accept the social ramifications from other people that action will entail.

Of course you are right about this.

Somehow, however, I don't think that someone who objects to political correctness is complaining about not being able to say 'nigger' or 'bitch'.

Deaf people are deaf. They are NOT hearing impaired.

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[bzk90]

so we should gather up all the kkk and all the black people and gay people and have them call each other names?

 

[Setharnas]

Watching that could be interesting.



From a safe distance, that is.

 

[Courageous]

so we should gather up all the kkk and all the black people and gay people and have them call each other names?

We should take all the KKK folks to a gay biker bar, and tie them up in a bentover position. We could pretend the name calling is sweet nothings.

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