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Bono on Christianity
- Thread starter David
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Lemming telling other lemmings to stop being lemmings? I like that.
Listen, it's obvious that the only thing you know about religion is what your liberal acquintances drill into your mind. Like I said before, what you think of "religion" is only the very tip of it. There's so much more to the idea of "religion" than just "God" and "worship" if you'd take the time to stop spouting "I hate religion" crap and actually look at what religion really is.
If you were to take the time to look at what religion really is, you'd realize that true religion is what could possibly save this immoral, dirty world. Not God, but religion as a whole. Religion creates a faith in something, a strong set of base morals, an understanding of the basis of human emotional needs. 20% of our country is depressed at any given time. Before religion (again, not GOD but religion) lost its foothold in society and before some parts of the followers of religion were twisted into what they are today, the numbers were nowhere near that high.
Religion in itself is not bad. The way people translate religion can be.
Listen, it's obvious that the only thing you know about religion is what your liberal acquintances drill into your mind. Like I said before, what you think of "religion" is only the very tip of it. There's so much more to the idea of "religion" than just "God" and "worship" if you'd take the time to stop spouting "I hate religion" crap and actually look at what religion really is.
If you were to take the time to look at what religion really is, you'd realize that true religion is what could possibly save this immoral, dirty world. Not God, but religion as a whole. Religion creates a faith in something, a strong set of base morals, an understanding of the basis of human emotional needs. 20% of our country is depressed at any given time. Before religion (again, not GOD but religion) lost its foothold in society and before some parts of the followers of religion were twisted into what they are today, the numbers were nowhere near that high.
Religion in itself is not bad. The way people translate religion can be.
I understand there is a distinction between god and religion...read my post
Religion is nothing more than a way to control the masses, theres nothing wrong with spirituality or having faith or believing in god/s but organized religion is a creation of man to control man. We don't need religion to teach people morals and ethics, thats the job of a parent. Would the world be so bad if people actually thought for themselves? Do you honestly believe the church offers anything besides a group cling to?
You're right though, I don't know much about "religion"...I'm to busy studying philosophy and spirituality...
As long as the church is busy brainwashing the next generation to believe exclusively what they are told we will NEVER reach a time of world peace.
Religion is nothing more than a way to control the masses, theres nothing wrong with spirituality or having faith or believing in god/s but organized religion is a creation of man to control man. We don't need religion to teach people morals and ethics, thats the job of a parent. Would the world be so bad if people actually thought for themselves? Do you honestly believe the church offers anything besides a group cling to?
You're right though, I don't know much about "religion"...I'm to busy studying philosophy and spirituality...
As long as the church is busy brainwashing the next generation to believe exclusively what they are told we will NEVER reach a time of world peace.
No, the Church is an institution.
Yeah. Noticed that a lot of parents these days are the most irresponsible people in existance? Good idea to let them be the only teachers of morals and ethics.
I don't really like the Church, but actually, I do believe it offers something besides a group to cling to. It offers purpose and understanding.
bzk said:
Yeah. Noticed that a lot of parents these days are the most irresponsible people in existance? Good idea to let them be the only teachers of morals and ethics.
I don't really like the Church, but actually, I do believe it offers something besides a group to cling to. It offers purpose and understanding.
There are less zealots than there are normal worshippers. Stop following your stupid stereotypes. Most followers are not like the psychos you see on the media, just like most things you see on the media should not be laid into stereotype.
You still refuse to seperate Church from religion. Until you do that, of course you won't understand religion, and you'll just go on being another ignorant religion-basher, without ever really understand or caring to understand what it is you're bashing. I have no problems with you accusing the Church of things because in some parts, I think the Church is greedy (both in money and needing attention, among other things), but religion is not Church.
You still refuse to seperate Church from religion. Until you do that, of course you won't understand religion, and you'll just go on being another ignorant religion-basher, without ever really understand or caring to understand what it is you're bashing. I have no problems with you accusing the Church of things because in some parts, I think the Church is greedy (both in money and needing attention, among other things), but religion is not Church.
Religion is the idea of a combination of faith, search for understand, search for meaning, and community. There are other things that are also part of religion but I'm going to get ice cream, so I'm not taking the time to list them.
Church takes religion and defines each part of it, just as Islam takes religion and defines each part of it in ways that are different from Christianity. Religion is Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, but Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are not religion. I'm not sure if that makes sense, but I hope you get my meaning.
Church takes religion and defines each part of it, just as Islam takes religion and defines each part of it in ways that are different from Christianity. Religion is Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, but Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are not religion. I'm not sure if that makes sense, but I hope you get my meaning.
Where do you get your information? I don't have a single friend from the church I used to attend that was simply born into it. Their parents are christians, but they are there because they have embraced the faith their parents showed them, not because their parents forced them to. The only reason I don't embrace it is because I struggle to find God because of some things that have happened in my life in the past that have effected me to a very deep point.
