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Public Smokin'
- Thread starter Mo Khan
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Maynza
Formerly DontdroptheSOAD
... so what is your point? Smoke inhilation totally different than ciggarette smoking... And firefighters won't get smoking inhilation from the "vast majority of fires" they are more apt to get it from situations likeMalaperth said:
not to mention you cite no source for this claim.
The government very well may legislate the eating of cake also, SOAD. You are a quite intelligent person, at least from what I read of your posts, even if you are stubborn and idealistic 
Can you honestly say to me that you need a source to figure out that smoking a cigarette has a higher concentration of particulates than your average fire? And, can you honestly say that you see no harm at all in second hand smoke?
Can you honestly say to me that you need a source to figure out that smoking a cigarette has a higher concentration of particulates than your average fire? And, can you honestly say that you see no harm at all in second hand smoke?
Maynza
Formerly DontdroptheSOAD
I have no argument that smoking is bad for you, my argument is that it is bad for the soccer mom that happens to walk by you while smoke on the side of the road.Malaperth said:The government very well may legislate the eating of cake also, SOAD. You are a quite intelligent person, at least from what I read of your posts, even if you are stubborn and idealistic
In that case, it's a matter of degrees and semantics. Mostly, this subject is simply a political football. Clean air is better for you than not (yes, quite obvious), but some things are regulated and some not. In my opinion, politicians are going for cigarette smokers because they can, as opposed to going after many other things that pollute the air.
Some building materials may not be burned because of the nasty things they put into the air when burned. Cigarettes, when burned, produce toxins that are not allowed in the air by burning other items, such as building materials. (don't ask for a source, please, you get the point).
I'm not sure which side of the fence I'm on as far as smoking in open, public places. The only thing I'm sure of is that if I smoke in front of someone, my action can harm them. A non-smoker not smoking in front of me will not hurt me by that lack of action (hope you understand that, it's kinda goofy sounding).
Some building materials may not be burned because of the nasty things they put into the air when burned. Cigarettes, when burned, produce toxins that are not allowed in the air by burning other items, such as building materials. (don't ask for a source, please, you get the point).
I'm not sure which side of the fence I'm on as far as smoking in open, public places. The only thing I'm sure of is that if I smoke in front of someone, my action can harm them. A non-smoker not smoking in front of me will not hurt me by that lack of action (hope you understand that, it's kinda goofy sounding).
Malaperth said:
Understood completely. But, let's say you own a cat. And, let's say I am allergic to cat hair and it causes a violent physical reaction . You spend the afternoon playing with, and petting, your cat. I realize I am out of bread so I head down to the store. You become aware that your supply of milk is critically low, and, you too, head to the store. By chance, we end up in the same checkout line together. Some buttnugget behind me likes to keep the line too tight and I end up inches behind you. Within seconds I start to have an allergic reaction to the cat hair on your clothing...I die. should we ban all cats? they are a health risk you know. they just killed a man at the grocery store.
Shadow1980
Wanderer
Mo Khan said:
Nah stores would just get told to put a pretty sign outside:
Health Risk Warning: This store might from time to time be visited by people who own a cat.
or
CAUTION: Cat hairs take lives.
Coupled with graphic pictures of people losing their lives in an allergic reaction to cat hairs. Pretty much like we put such things on packets of cigs.
"Has it ever occured to you how astonishing the culture of Western society really is? Industrialized nations provide their citizens with unprecedented safety, health, and comfort. Average life spans increased 50 percent in the last century. Yet modern people live in abject fear. They are afraid of strangers, disease, of crime, of the environment. They are afraid of the homes they live in, the food they eat, the technology that surrounds them. They are timid, nervous, fretful,, and depressed. And even more amazingly, they are convinced that the environment of the entire planet is being destroyed around them. Remarkable! Like the belief in witchcraft, it's an extraordinary delusion - a global fantasy worthy of the Middle Ages. Everything is going to hell, and we must all live in fear."
Michael Crichton,
State of Fear; New York:
Harper Collins, 2004, 455.
State of Fear; New York:
Harper Collins, 2004, 455.
You want to smoke?
Do it in your house, or in your car (with the windows rolled up).
The smell of smoke makes me sick and I can't stand driving behind someone who's smoking with their windows down.
It infuriates me.
Smoking is the most disgusting thing in the world (to me).
Do it in your house, or in your car (with the windows rolled up).
The smell of smoke makes me sick and I can't stand driving behind someone who's smoking with their windows down.
It infuriates me.
Smoking is the most disgusting thing in the world (to me).